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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Merkin Muffley‏ @MerkinMuffley5 Jul 20
      Replying to @powercreek @gorskon @unbrokencocoon

      Shrier uses the phrase "gender ideology" 30 times in the book, describing it as "radical", "cult-like", and a "social contagion". I don't think anyone disputes the word "woke" shouldn't have been inside quotation marks, but does this change her thesis in any meaningful way?

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    2. Power Creek‏ @powercreek Jul 20
      Replying to @MerkinMuffley5 @gorskon @unbrokencocoon

      That's not my point. My point is that Singal has pointed out what seem in fact to be numerous careless errors in the review. The right response is to acknowledge, explain and correct those errors -- not to launch a stupid counterattack.

      3 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    3. Merkin Muffley‏ @MerkinMuffley5 Jul 20
      Replying to @powercreek @gorskon @unbrokencocoon

      As Singal himself notes: this particular error is acknowledged and corrected. But in the mean time, why not address the substantive claim made in the review: Shrier uses a sensationalist phrase over 30 times without bothering to explain what it is.

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    4. Power Creek‏ @powercreek Jul 20
      Replying to @MerkinMuffley5 @gorskon @unbrokencocoon

      Ok, but seriously — are you maintaining that readers don’t understand what she means by “gender ideology”? Is that actually a problem? I mean honestly, it seems pretty self-explanatory to me.

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    5. Merkin Muffley‏ @MerkinMuffley5 Jul 20
      Replying to @powercreek @gorskon @unbrokencocoon

      I don't. She seems to - at various times - be discussing the sex vs. gender distinction, or just the belief that trans identities are valid. "Gender ideology" means a lot of stuff to a lot of people.https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/gender/2017/12/11/gender-ideology-tracking-its-origins-and-meanings-in-current-gender-politics/ …

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    6. Power Creek‏ @powercreek Jul 20
      Replying to @MerkinMuffley5 @gorskon @unbrokencocoon

      I’ve read the first graf of this and it’s already made me laugh. This is just incredibly amateurish. “probably bc the Vatican … had other urgent matters to cope with such as the sexual rights of women and sexual orient. as a non-justifiable basis of discrimination.” Ok sure.

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    7. Merkin Muffley‏ @MerkinMuffley5 Jul 20
      Replying to @powercreek @gorskon @unbrokencocoon

      Not sure what difference that makes. The core issue - that "gender ideology" has been used by a variety of hard right groups to attack everything from gay marriage to gender equality. Multiple sources attest to this. https://library.fes.de/pdf-files/bueros/budapest/11382.pdf …

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    8. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jul 20
      Replying to @MerkinMuffley5 @powercreek @unbrokencocoon

      I definitely got the feeling that "gender ideology" is just another term that's bandied about by the right wing to demonize something it doesn't like, the way they coopted "woke" and redefined critical race theory to mean anything that makes white people uncomfortable about race.

      3 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
    9. Merkin Muffley‏ @MerkinMuffley5 Jul 20
      Replying to @gorskon @powercreek @unbrokencocoon

      Right, and in the trans rights debate it seems to often be deployed as either a conspiracy theory or as a way of marking relatively mainstream ideas like the sex/gender distinction as something radical.

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    10. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jul 20
      Replying to @MerkinMuffley5 @powercreek @unbrokencocoon

      Oh, I *definitely* saw elements of a conspiracy theory in Shrier's narrative. I saw them immediately, just as soon as I started looking into Shrier's book and reading it after Dr. Hall's review. I also saw a number of parallels with the antivaccine movement.

      2 replies 1 retweet 6 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jul 20
      Replying to @gorskon @MerkinMuffley5 and

      I've debated writing a post about the parallels, but after the 💩-storm we've been dealing with since Dr. Hall posted her review, I just don't know if I'm ready to compound it right now. Maybe in a week or two (or three).

      2:23 PM - 20 Jul 2021
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