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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    1. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Jul 11
      Replying to @drjkahn @gorskon and

      So far, very few deaths were actually linked to the vaccines, and those were in the context of the J&J clots - which led to immediate action and respond. The rest is misrepresentation by antivaccine activists amplified by gullible or grifters.

      4 replies 2 retweets 43 likes
    2. Joel Kahn MD, FACC‏ @drjkahn Jul 11
      Replying to @doritmi @gorskon and

      So how many have died? And who is investigating? Snd when will know? And a jump in 2,000 deaths 6/26-7/7/21 when the vaxx program is slowing down is of no concern?

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Jul 11
      Replying to @drjkahn @gorskon and

      You’re asking this as if it’s a gotcha. But if you did the work and watched ACIP meetings since the start of the pandemic, you would see they discuss the report and explain their investigation of them every time. There is no indication of many deaths, and this is closely watched.

      1 reply 1 retweet 40 likes
    4. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Jul 11
      Replying to @doritmi @drjkahn and

      It’s easier to take the antivaccine talking point and run with it, when it fits your bias, but it’s also inappropriate and wrong. If you’re not willing to do the ACIP work, Dr. Gorski wrote on it.https://respectfulinsolence.com/2021/02/08/antivaxxers-misuse-vaers-database-to-spread-fear-of-covid-19-vaccines/ …

      3 replies 5 retweets 44 likes
    5. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Jul 11
      Replying to @doritmi @drjkahn and

      An incredible effort has been put into safety monitoring of these vaccines. You come in now, having grabbed onto an antivaccine talking point - and make no mistake, that’s exactly where your misuse of vaers come from - to ignore the data and mislead others.

      3 replies 1 retweet 36 likes
    6. Joel Kahn MD, FACC‏ @drjkahn Jul 11
      Replying to @doritmi @gorskon and

      Hmmm With this vaxx program there is no critical event committee, there is no data safety monitoring board, and there is no human ethics committee. Those structures are mandatory for all large clinical investigations

      4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Jul 11
      Replying to @drjkahn @gorskon and

      Two federal agencies - FDA and CDC - and a long standing expert committee closely review this data. There are at least four large monitoring systems in the U.S. alone. Maybe you could start by acknowledging you may not know this area, and ask and learn more?

      1 reply 1 retweet 42 likes
    8. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Jul 11
      Replying to @doritmi @drjkahn and

      Nobody knows everything. But if you’re going to make claims about #vaccines in the middle of a pandemic, and especially if you want to disagree with experts, you should do the work of understanding the area.

      2 replies 1 retweet 37 likes
    9. Joel Kahn MD, FACC‏ @drjkahn Jul 11
      Replying to @doritmi @gorskon and

      Death rate per @CDCgov last 2 weeks 250/d. Awful but down 90%. No deaths in Oakland County MI. Per VAERS 172 died of the vaccine in the same period. Are they all going to be verified? Let’s see. No DSMB exists. Talk about. Very concerning when mainly low risk are jab targets

      18 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Jul 11
      Replying to @drjkahn @gorskon and

      No. First, when you say “per vaers x died from@the vaccine,” you are saying an untruth. Vaers doesn’t show that. You’ve shown zero actual deaths from vaccines in this tweet. Second, you’re comparing National to your county’s statistics. Third, deaths lag infections.

      1 reply 2 retweets 43 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jul 11
      Replying to @doritmi @drjkahn and

      Basically, here we see that a law professor understands WAY more about a medical epidemiological topic like #VAERS than a cardiologist does.

      8:03 AM - 11 Jul 2021
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        2. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Jul 11
          Replying to @gorskon @drjkahn and

          I’m not an epidemiologist or doctor, but I do teach administrative law and my dissertation was on accountability. A board is not the only way to do oversight. In this case, there are multiple oversight mechanism for vaccines safety. It’s a strong system.

          1 reply 1 retweet 15 likes
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        1. Liz "The Mask Goes Over Your Nose AND Mouth" Ditz‏ @lizditz Jul 11
          Replying to @gorskon @doritmi and

          As it turns out, @doritmi has done the work. For years. The cardiologist has not.

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        2. Thomas Everett‏ @Brewlord95 Jul 11
          Replying to @gorskon @doritmi and

          FWIW I'm an electrician, and I understand how VAERS works

          1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes
        3. Ira Boast‏ @BoastIra Jul 11
          Replying to @Brewlord95 @doritmi and

          I teach woodwork, and I understand VAERS! (Although, to be fair, I used to teach science...)

          0 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
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        1. Alison is Tired of Covidiots‏ @Awithonelison Jul 12
          Replying to @gorskon @doritmi and

          A hairdresser understands it better, too. He should be embarrassed.

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