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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Peter R. Hansen‏ @ProfPHansen Jun 24

      Good idea @kasperkepp Let's bring international attention to this matter. What do experts on #VaccineHesitancy and misinformation have to say about @StabellBenn claims about Covid19💉? @DrPaulOffit @Rosewind2007 @doritmi @gorskon might recall earlier encounters. Thread👇 https://twitter.com/KasperKepp/status/1407951484134776832 …pic.twitter.com/eCsajy8gzZ

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    2. Christine Stabell Benn‏ @StabellBenn Jun 24
      Replying to @ProfPHansen @KasperKepp and

      Absurd thread full of bad intentions and clearly wrong accusations. Easy to refute. See under each tweet.

      11 replies 0 retweets 105 likes
    3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jun 25
      Replying to @StabellBenn @ProfPHansen and

      I stand by my response to you here. The best that can be said about your Tweet was that you exhibited incredible naïveté.pic.twitter.com/bE8HxAPRDE

      2 replies 3 retweets 15 likes
    4. Kasper Planeta Kepp‏ @KasperKepp Jun 25
      Replying to @gorskon @StabellBenn and

      Nevermind - I just found the actual discussion: It seems you left out @StabellBenn reply:pic.twitter.com/jNOpRWEbHr

      1 reply 1 retweet 8 likes
    5. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jun 25
      Replying to @KasperKepp @StabellBenn and

      Which only reinforces my impression that she was incredibly naive. In antivax hands, "informed consent" really means "misinformed refusal," in which parents refuse vaccines for their children because they believe antivax lies about the harms caused.

      4 replies 3 retweets 21 likes
    6. Kasper Planeta Kepp‏ @KasperKepp Jun 25
      Replying to @gorskon @StabellBenn and

      Here is the full debate: https://twitter.com/StabellBenn/status/1100044631864168450 … So the part I marked is the actual part that you disagree with and the basis of your attack on professor @StabellBenn ? Again, I have no knowledge of this, first time I meet you and I find this all very peculiar.pic.twitter.com/jGZ7YxazBA

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Rosewind‏ @Rosewind2007 Jun 25
      Replying to @KasperKepp @gorskon and

      As you say: you have “no knowledge of all this”. @gorskon does. When @ProfPHansen speaks of “experts on #VaccineHesitancy and misinformation”, David here is one of them. I have a pretty reasonable knowledge too. What David says is true.pic.twitter.com/SEenr8yzwG

      1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes
    8. Kasper Planeta Kepp‏ @KasperKepp Jun 25
      Replying to @Rosewind2007 @gorskon and

      "What David says is true." As I read, please correct if wrong, @gorskon says that the term "informed consent" is typically used by antivaxx groups. @StabellBenn thinks not. Is this disagreement the basis for the attack? Why was the context not included above? @gorskonpic.twitter.com/PgOkRYVk2P

      4 replies 1 retweet 0 likes
    9. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Jun 25
      Replying to @KasperKepp @Rosewind2007 and

      Dr. Gorski was explaining that antivaccine groups use the term informed consent to mask something else, misinformed refusal, and that well intentioned scientists accepting that framing may too easily, and too often, unintentionally help and enable the antivaccine effort.

      2 replies 1 retweet 14 likes
    10. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Jun 25
      Replying to @doritmi @KasperKepp and

      He was warming Professor (I’m not sure if the right title is Prof. Or Dr., and apologize if I’m wrong) Stabell against inadvertently helping that effort.

      2 replies 1 retweet 8 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jun 25
      Replying to @doritmi @KasperKepp and

      Correct, hence my comment about naivete. Antivaxxers misrepresent what "informed consent" is, bake exaggerating (or inventing outright) harms from vaccines and downplaying benefits. I've written about this tactic many times over the years.

      8:43 AM - 25 Jun 2021
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        2. Peter R. Hansen‏ @ProfPHansen Jun 25
          Replying to @gorskon @doritmi and

          Naivete is spot on. If you say "I rather go to prison than get vaccinated" (in hypothetical context), and later get surprised that antivax use that quote.https://www.tv2fyn.dk/odense/omdelt-flyer-advarer-mod-vacciner-fynsk-vaccineforsker-foeler-sig-misbrugt …

          2 replies 2 retweets 6 likes
        3. Kasper Planeta Kepp‏ @KasperKepp Jun 25
          Replying to @ProfPHansen @gorskon and

          Communication is a big issue. Sensitive science should ideally be explained by authors e.g. on Twitter so others can use it to debunk misuse. Sensational phrases are easily misused. There are clear faults here as in many other places, also by media (but again Denmark is not US).

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