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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Adam W Gaffney‏Verified account @awgaffney Jun 22

      Notable that one of the leading physician advocates for using ivermectin for COVID-19, Paul Marik, was once also convinced that he had cured sepsis with a combination of vitamins and steroids — a finding not replicated once a randomized trial was actually performed. /Thread

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    2. Adam W Gaffney‏Verified account @awgaffney Jun 22

      His words: "We haven't seen a patient die of sepsis since we began using the combination therapy a year ago. We have completely changed the natural history of sepsis."https://www.nbc12.com/story/34986689/virginia-doctors-possible-cure-could-save-millions-from-sepsis/ …

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    3. Adam W Gaffney‏Verified account @awgaffney Jun 22

      He's a member of the FLCCC Alliance, along with Pierre Kory, who testified in the Senate for Ron Johnson that Ivermectin is "effectively a 'miracle drug' against COVID-19." Ivermectin is not the only FLCCC Alliance's recommendation that is not evidenced-based.

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    4. Adam W Gaffney‏Verified account @awgaffney Jun 22

      For instance, here's their "Long COVID" protocol, which calls for treatment (on the basis of little to no evidence) with: -Ivermectin -Steroids -"Treatment of Suspected Mast Cell Activation" (various agents) -"Macrophage/Monocyte Repolarization Therapy" (various agents)pic.twitter.com/x6MkSontPg

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    5. Adam W Gaffney‏Verified account @awgaffney Jun 22

      One can disagree about role that social media companies should (or shouldn't) play in censoring misinformation — I fall more on the ACLU end of the spectrum — but the push by @BretWeinstein & others to cast ivermectin as a suppressed miracle cure is goofy, and indeed harmful.

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    6. Adam W Gaffney‏Verified account @awgaffney Jun 22

      A large, high-quality trial can be conducted. If benefit is demonstrated (and a priori that's improbable with such a re-purposed drug), that would be wonderful! But based on where things stand now, these individuals, including critical care doctors, are making extraordinary, ...

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    7. Adam W Gaffney‏Verified account @awgaffney Jun 22

      ... indeed grandiose claims that is simply not backed by adequate evidence, both for ivermectin and their "protocols" more broadly. It's grossly irresponsible.

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    8. Adam W Gaffney‏Verified account @awgaffney Jun 22

      It's not at all surprising that this happened- earlier with hydroxychloroquine and now with ivermectin. The "allure of the miracle cure" exerts such a strong pull - both patients and physicians are potentially prone to perceive such a cure based on narrow reading, or experience

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jun 22
      Replying to @awgaffney

      I could understand how #hydroxychloroquine rose to prominence. It was early in the pandemic. ICUs were besieged with incredibly sick people, who were dying in droves. Doctors didn't know what to do. Here was this cheap drug, recommended by China. Why not?

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        2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jun 22
          Replying to @gorskon @awgaffney

          I can (sort of) understand how in March-April 2020, when the pandemic really took off in the US, it could *seem* that there was nothing to lose by trying HCQ. There was nothing else. That HCQ was quickly shown not to work by fall was science correcting itself.

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        3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jun 22
          Replying to @gorskon @awgaffney

          What I don't understand is how the same thing can happen now. There are grifters out there still promoting HCQ as a miracle cure for #COVID19. They're often the same grifters now promoting #ivermectin as a miracle cure.

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        2. Adam W Gaffney‏Verified account @awgaffney Jun 22
          Replying to @gorskon

          Right, I don't disagree, but I would differentiate two things here. The first is, "why did many (?most) doctors use it early in the pandemic for sick patients?)". And I think your explanation is right ...

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        3. Adam W Gaffney‏Verified account @awgaffney Jun 22
          Replying to @awgaffney @gorskon

          But in this thread, I'm referring instead to what seemed like a politicized cult around hydroxychloroquine as a near miracle cure

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