Ridiculous libertarian "thinking" at @reason: "Americans now are told that "the poor get poorer," but it's not true. Americans are 30 times richer than we were 200 years ago. When America began, rich people were poorer than poor people are today."https://reason.com/2021/04/28/society-is-richer-and-more-accepting-thanks-to-libertarian-ideas/ …
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I can't even. I mean,
@JohnStossel is basically arguing that the poor today should be happy because the poor 200 years ago were much worse off than they are now and that we should ignore the wealth gap because 200 years ago the rich couldn't get what the poor can now.
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Replying to @gorskon @JohnStossel
There are far fewer people living in poverty today than at any time in history. You might want to stick to your areas of expertise. Just as law profs and economists shouldn’t make uninformed statements about medical issues, neither should physicians about about economic data.
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Replying to @NitaGhei @JohnStossel
None of this is a good argument that libertarian ideas are responsible for this.
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Replying to @gorskon @JohnStossel
Libertarian ideas are what? There is a spectrum. And we might well be talking past each other. People often think AnCap when they say libertarian. Pretty sure that isn’t what Stossel means. He is not hard core. But increasing the space for peaceful and voluntary exchange is good.
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So we are to just ignore the American libertarian embrace of Mises (the crank of praxeology), Hayek & Rothbard ideology going for decades? FFS, Stossel is barking the same crap as the Mises foundation.
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For my part, libertarians lost me when they declared war on
@US_FDA and started making the BS argument that the FDA is "killing people" by being too slow to approve new drugs. And it IS a BS argument. From six years ago:https://respectfulinsolence.com/2014/10/28/ebola-right-to-try-laws-and-placebo-legislation/ …1 reply 3 retweets 12 likes -
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Then, of course, there's the way that, even before the pandemic, antivax views had found a cosy home among libertarians, such that libertarians who aren't antivaccine ended up getting attacked if they expressed support for vaccine mandates.https://respectfulinsolence.com/2013/12/18/why-are-antivaccinationists-so-at-home-with-libertarianism/ …
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The vax question is a hard one, philosophically. It’s actually a big split in the movement. I am not a big L libertarian. I vax, and fully support vaccination. Forcibly vaxing someone is a violation of NAP; but so is that that person shedding virus. So, I don’t know ?
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It's more than the vaccine question. Libertarians have gone so far as to claim that
@US_FDA is unnecessary and that drug safety and effectiveness can be evaluated using an@Uber or@Yelp for drugs.https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/donald-trump-vs-the-fda-be-afraid-be-very-afraid-of-the-loosening-of-drug-approval-standards/ …3 replies 3 retweets 12 likes
Others go further and make the bonkers claim that the FDA is "killing more people than it saves" through too slow and bureaucratic drug approval. Besides the unfounded assumption that faster drug approval will save more lives, the FDA is actually faster than, for example, the EU.
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There might have been some merit to such an argument 35 years ago, during the early part of the AIDS epidemic, but now? Not so much. If anything, drug approval standards have gone too far in the other direction and are too lax.https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/donald-trump-versus-the-fda-part-2/ …
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As an intractable migraine patient I beg to differ. Chronic pain patients have been shafted by the FDA and CDC. We would be better off with a right to try.
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