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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Apr 11

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted

      The E in EUA does NOT stand for “experimental,” fool. The vaccines have gone through phase 3 clinical trials, just like any other vaccine.🙄 https://twitter.com/robert_spalding/status/1381342828899528709 …

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    2. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Apr 11
      Replying to @gorskon

      So this is a little trickier, and it is currently under debate. Because the evidence required for an EUA is less than that required for a a licensed product, and for at least some EUA product “experimental” would be a good fit. So we want to be careful: 1/n

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Apr 11
      Replying to @doritmi @gorskon

      Law is about drawing lines, and some EUA products are experimental, and the serious scholars that want to keep the designation - not the deniers - are worried that letting the government decide which unapproved products are not experimental can lead to issues (think HCQ). 2/n

      2 replies 0 retweets 9 likes
    4. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Apr 11
      Replying to @doritmi @gorskon

      That said, the #COVID19 #vaccines, as you point out, have been tried in trials with tens of thousands of people. The mRNA vaccines have been given to tens of millions. Calling these vaccines experimental makes a mockery of the word. 3/n

      2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
    5. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Apr 11
      Replying to @doritmi @gorskon

      The challenge is drawing a serious line that doesn’t allow EUA to be used to rush products that are treated as approved - and remember, this was a real risk not that long ago and can be again - while not using experimental to limit what we can do, 4/n

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    6. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Apr 11
      Replying to @doritmi @gorskon

      When the product has very strong data behind it. 5/5

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    7. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Apr 11
      Replying to @doritmi @gorskon

      These vaccines are a relatively easy case under any standards I can think of.

      3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    8. Dr Paul Mackey‏ @auscandoc Apr 13
      Replying to @doritmi @gorskon

      Yes this one keeps getting thrown around. Yes there is a difference between “approved” and EUA. But the scurrilous use of this non dichotomy is deliberately disingenuous . Have to admit I’ve taken to replying at their level: “STFU. The A = authorized”

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Apr 13
      Replying to @auscandoc @doritmi

      Yeah, right now Del Bigtree is threatening to sue the FDA because he thinks the messaging about vaccines granted an EUA isn’t strict enough about saying that they don’t have full FDA approval.

      6:28 AM - 13 Apr 2021
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        1. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi Apr 13
          Replying to @gorskon @auscandoc

          He also threatened to sue CDC for saying vaccines don’t cause autism. Anyone can bring baseless suits.

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