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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. chadi nabhan MD, MBA, FACP‏Verified account @chadinabhan Apr 3
      Replying to @JHowardBrainMD @mikejohansenmd @MartyMakary

      chadi nabhan MD, MBA, FACP Retweeted chadi nabhan MD, MBA, FACP

      I’ll remind you. The letter is below. I await your outrage that such letter was written asking to delay the vaccines that do indeed save lives. 60 scientists signed it.https://twitter.com/chadinabhan/status/1339322212864626688 …

      chadi nabhan MD, MBA, FACP added,

      chadi nabhan MD, MBA, FACPVerified account @chadinabhan
      Replying to @marklewismd
      So, let’s say U R not a medical professional & U R a regular person consuming info from media & “experts”. U come across this letter below, then 2 months later the entire message is changed How is the public going to react? MED twitter, sadly, has been far from consistent W recs. pic.twitter.com/5GUgiJqsQe
      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Ramin Farzaneh-Far MD‏ @rfsquared Apr 3
      Replying to @chadinabhan @JHowardBrainMD and

      This nakedly political intervention to delay vaccine approval, along with Fauci’s refusal to support an obviously superior first dose vaccine strategy have cost WAY more lives than all the “denialism” and “5G antivax” sentiment put together.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. chadi nabhan MD, MBA, FACP‏Verified account @chadinabhan Apr 3
      Replying to @rfsquared @JHowardBrainMD and

      I haven’t seen Topol saying he was wrong. And that letter was politically motivated to its core. It’s ok. We live in a double standard world; nothing new there. Enjoy your Saturday everyone.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. mike johansen‏ @mikejohansenmd Apr 3
      Replying to @chadinabhan @rfsquared and

      He wasn't wrong (I hate to admit this).

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Angry Cardiologist‏ @AngryCardio Apr 3
      Replying to @mikejohansenmd @chadinabhan and

      Wait, are saying Topol’s letter was not wrong? Or something else in the thread?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. mike johansen‏ @mikejohansenmd Apr 3
      Replying to @AngryCardio @chadinabhan and

      The letter was clearly a silly political stunt. I disagreed w/the concept of the letter at the time. In retrospect, probably better for the trial to accrue more unless it slowed manufacturing capacity.

      4 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Angry Cardiologist‏ @AngryCardio Apr 3
      Replying to @mikejohansenmd @chadinabhan and

      I will not comment on the motives of the writer or signatories. What I will say is that their demands were non-standard & nonsensical. As it turned out, safety & efficacy were better than nearly anyone predicted. Of course, it could have been different…

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Angry Cardiologist‏ @AngryCardio Apr 3
      Replying to @AngryCardio @mikejohansenmd and

      However, even if the safety was not as clear, the demands of the letter would not have uncovered much. Longer-term safety would require *much* more time, based on historical examples. Rare events would need *much* more numbers.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. Jonathan Howard‏ @JHowardBrainMD Apr 3
      Replying to @AngryCardio @mikejohansenmd and

      The letter asked that *standard* practice for vaccine trials be applied, which is two months after the 2nd dose. There was nothing there about long term safety. Or maybe point out to me what I missed. Maybe if Clinton won this wouldn’t have happened.pic.twitter.com/TKSSRqObeO

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Angry Cardiologist‏ @AngryCardio Apr 3
      Replying to @JHowardBrainMD @mikejohansenmd and

      Many trial participants would have already achieved that milestone. Their concerns were made up. Topol had already tried to sandbag the Pfizer DSMB in tweets leading up to the letter. Outlined in my blog post.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Apr 3
      Replying to @AngryCardio @JHowardBrainMD and

      “Many” is not standard practice in such a clinical trial. 🙄

      9:26 AM - 3 Apr 2021
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        1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Apr 3
          Replying to @gorskon @AngryCardio and

          Perusing his timeline and his RTs tells me where he’s coming from. Kuldorff is one of the three scientists behind @aier’s “let #COVID19 rip” #GreatBarringtonDeclaration, and praising Kuldorff tells me his bias, even if I agree that Ding doesn’t deserve to be considered an expert.pic.twitter.com/aiNpYJ0YLU

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        1. Angry Cardiologist‏ @AngryCardio Apr 3
          Replying to @gorskon @JHowardBrainMD and

          Neither is “all”, since it does not account for inevitable dropouts. That’s why there is a DSMB, to make these calls armed with data.

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