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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Mar 12

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Michael Shermer

      I can't resist reiterating (at the risk of seeming obsessive) that the very same principle applies to someone accused of racism who vehemently denies being racist. Evidence in the form of their past words and deeds can be presented to show that they are, in fact, racist.https://twitter.com/michaelshermer/status/1370170284997812226 …

      David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

      Michael ShermerVerified account @michaelshermer
      When you accuse people of being antivaxxers @gorskon you provide evidence that anyone can evaluate themselves (statements, articles, interviews, actions, etc.) If I accuse you of being an antivaxxer w/out evidence & you deny it & I say "denial=guilt" you'd reject that argument. https://twitter.com/gorskon/status/1370154131206369281 …
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    2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Mar 12

      And...I see that my experiment worked, namely posting about this again, only this time without limiting who can respond. The trolls have already started to show up...for me to block.

      4 replies 1 retweet 41 likes
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    3. PZ Myers  🕷‏ @pzmyers Mar 12
      Replying to @gorskon

      The bad thing about setting up a honey trap is all the slimy disgusting critters you catch in it.

      3 replies 0 retweets 14 likes
    4. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Mar 12
      Replying to @pzmyers

      True, but once they're dealt with they make my timeline better. I bet @MarkHoofnagle would approve...

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    5. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle Mar 12
      Replying to @gorskon @pzmyers

      They’re literally calling you a marxist. It shows what a piece of shit Shermer is, if I was followed by such ilk I’d be ashamed. You are responsible for the harassment you direct at people.

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    6. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Mar 12
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @pzmyers

      Well sure. He quote Tweeted me. Twice.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle Mar 12
      Replying to @gorskon @pzmyers

      But who shows up when that happens says a lot about who you are and what you’re putting in the world and tells me which skeptics are inherently bad, hateful, racist, ideological etc. It’s why I despise the black duck, he’s no different from James Lindsay.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle Mar 12
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @gorskon @pzmyers

      But aside from that Kendi had a good point, those pat denials are a sign of someone who can not introspect about their own racism. We all have some bad ideas banging around our heads from growing up in a racist culture. If confronted don’t deny error, ask how you can do better.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Mar 12
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @pzmyers

      That's exactly why I mocked those who thought they had laid down an unanswerable, argument-winning "gotcha" by asking me, "Are you a racist?" Any honest white male my age really has to answer that he's at least a little racist. You can't escape your upbringing and history.

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    10. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Mar 12
      Replying to @gorskon @MarkHoofnagle @pzmyers

      The real question is: What do you do with the realization that you are at least a little racist? I've been trying to learn and use what I learn to make myself better and even become anti-racist. You can't improve yourself if you so defensively deny that you even have a problem.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Mar 12
      Replying to @gorskon @MarkHoofnagle @pzmyers

      I like to look at it this way with respect to any implicit racism still in me. I'm definitely better than I was ten or twenty years ago but still not as good as I'd like to be. It's a process, not an endpoint.

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        1. West  🇨🇦  🌈 VACCINATED!‏ @coastalwoman56 Mar 12
          Replying to @gorskon @MarkHoofnagle @pzmyers

          I surprise myself sometimes. That inside voice says and thinks things I would never say out loud. I catch myself and am astonished at the depth of my ‘training’.... I have worked very hard to find and examine those aspects of who I am. I think the growth continues until we don’t.

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        2. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle Mar 12
          Replying to @gorskon @pzmyers

          I look at this same assaying”you are wrong” to me. If your response is “no I’m not”, “I’ve never been wrong” etc., says a lot about the person and its not good. My response would be, “Tell me how? What am I doing incorrectly?” Presume good faith until proven otherwise.

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        1. Wicapi Omani  🟠 🇨🇦‏ @kajd17 Mar 12
          Replying to @gorskon @MarkHoofnagle @pzmyers

          Indoctrination

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