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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Mar 7

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Richard Dawkins

      This sort of ignorance is depressing to see. Dawkins needs to read about the philosophy of science. It's not as though the concept of science as a social construct is new or that it invalidates the findings of science.https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1368259842222268421 …

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      Richard DawkinsVerified account @RichardDawkins
      Science is not a social construct. Science’s truths were true before there were societies; will still be true after all philosophers are dead; were true before any philosophers were born; were true before there were any minds, even trilobite or dinosaur minds, to notice them.
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    2. Rick K‏ @RickK101 Mar 7
      Replying to @gorskon

      Wrong take, I think. His second sentence clarifies his meaning when he refers to “science’s truths”. I’m hearing him make an argument in support of objective reality and the discoveries we’ve made to understand that reality. Reality doesn’t get enough respect these days.

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Mar 7
      Replying to @RickK101

      Except that the use of the term "sciences' truths" comes across as downright...religious..in tone. Science isn't about "truth." It's about explaining and modeling the behavior of the universe and will always be, at best, an approximation of "the truth."

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        2. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle Mar 7
          Replying to @gorskon @RickK101

          This. The arrogance of stating or presuming a “truth” is antithetical to scientific thinking, and hubristic. We do not know what will next expand our models, and the possibility of leaps as great as that between Newtonian and Relativistic physics remains as no GUT exists.

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        3. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle Mar 7
          Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @gorskon @RickK101

          We always approximate what we see within the tiny streetlight we have that lights our little corner of the universe, and the flawed brain and senses that allow us to perceive it. Naming a “Truth” under such spotlight is very human but very silly.

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        2. Kelley Marie‏ @kellroark Mar 7
          Replying to @gorskon @RickK101

          @gorskon 🎯Yep. I basically boiled down the conflict in the Skeptics arena into a philosophical disagreement: Positivism versus Post-Positivism. Positivists cling to radical objectivism & reject metaphysics while Post-positivists adhere to critical realism https://conjointly.com/kb/positivism-and-post-positivism/ …

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        3. Rick K‏ @RickK101 Mar 7
          Replying to @kellroark @gorskon

          "The difference is that the post-positivist critical realist recognizes that all observation is fallible and has error and that all theory is revisable." This is science as described by scientists from Darwin to Dawkins. Are your "positivists" strawmen?

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        1. Rick K‏ @RickK101 Mar 7
          Replying to @gorskon

          You really should read what Dawkins is saying - which he further clarifies in his follow-up tweet. There is a reality governed by rules - some of which can be understood and even harnessed. Don't you think that's worthy of a little awe and occasionally some emotive language?

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