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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Mar 7

    David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Richard Dawkins

    This sort of ignorance is depressing to see. Dawkins needs to read about the philosophy of science. It's not as though the concept of science as a social construct is new or that it invalidates the findings of science.https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1368259842222268421 …

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    Richard DawkinsVerified account @RichardDawkins
    Science is not a social construct. Science’s truths were true before there were societies; will still be true after all philosophers are dead; were true before any philosophers were born; were true before there were any minds, even trilobite or dinosaur minds, to notice them.
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      1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Mar 7

        As @MarkHoofnagle has pointed out, the anti-woke ideology that's taken root among some "skeptics" rots the brain and degrades scientific and critical thinking abilities.

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      1. Skeptiguy‏ @Skeptiguy1 Mar 7
        Replying to @gorskon

        The core dichotomy is between Truth - what we understand to be true - and fact, which is an empirical and objective thing. Our Truth may or may not align with fact. In science, Truth converges on fact by design. And sometimes we can say with confidence that our Truth *is* fact.

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      1. Adrian Jacobo‏ @Adrian_Jacobo Mar 7
        Replying to @gorskon

        It looks too egregious to be just ignorance. He's conflating science, which is a (flawed) process for learning about the world, with some platonic ideal of truth. Seems like a cheap attempt to pose himself above reproach by saying "What I say is true because I'm a scientist".

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      1. DavidRCassatt, PhD‏ @CassattDr Mar 7
        Replying to @gorskon

        Science has had a long history of reflecting the biases of the community doing the science. That’s one reason diversity of those doing science matters.

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      1. Bertrand Allen‏ @Bertrand_allen2 Mar 7
        Replying to @gorskon

        Dawkins is defending scientific realism(theories are approximately true of a world independent of us) against social constructivism. That's the only way to explain technology successes & failures. Theories & facts are(conjecturally) true (if not refuted).

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      1. cromwellian‏ @cromwellian Mar 7
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        I'm pretty sure he's just arguing objective reality, that the phenomena that theories model exist independent of human beings. The theories may be socially constructed, and peer-reviewed, but they describe and predict measurements which aren't. "True" == "not contradicted by xp"

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      2. Rick K‏ @RickK101 Mar 7
        Replying to @gorskon

        Wrong take, I think. His second sentence clarifies his meaning when he refers to “science’s truths”. I’m hearing him make an argument in support of objective reality and the discoveries we’ve made to understand that reality. Reality doesn’t get enough respect these days.

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      3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Mar 7
        Replying to @RickK101

        Except that the use of the term "sciences' truths" comes across as downright...religious..in tone. Science isn't about "truth." It's about explaining and modeling the behavior of the universe and will always be, at best, an approximation of "the truth."

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      2. Zach‏ @ROTHasaurusRex Mar 7
        Replying to @gorskon

        Among the many ironies of his statement, the idea that our current understanding of science = objective truth is just about the most anti-scientific statement one could make

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      3. Krishna Socialist‏ @Krish_NCC1701 Mar 7
        Replying to @ROTHasaurusRex @gorskon

        He didn't use the word "objective truths". You are trying to shoe horn that to criticize Dawkins.

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