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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
sciencebasedmedicine.org
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    1. the sailing science shill  ⛵️‏ @shmoopythescie1 Jan 25
      Replying to @shmoopythescie1 @BenMazer and

      ditch masking in public. When we 1) don’t know how effective in reducing the likelihood of infection and transmissibility the vaccine is 2) know not everyone is going to get vaccinated too and 3) seriously undermines the ongoing efforts to increase/maintain mask compliance 2/X

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    2. the sailing science shill  ⛵️‏ @shmoopythescie1 Jan 25
      Replying to @shmoopythescie1 @BenMazer and

      And social distancing measures amongst the general public. Something that in a finicky public that apparently really doesn’t like wearing masks is even harder to do the more people out there are saying “it’s fine I don’t need to wear a mask, I’m immune”.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    3. the sailing science shill  ⛵️‏ @shmoopythescie1 Jan 25
      Replying to @shmoopythescie1 @BenMazer and

      If you still aren’t convinced why Prasad has become dangerous in the age of COVID @gorskon @MDaware @MarkHoofnagle @MarkELindsay @Merz and many other wonderful accounts have explained and I’m sure will explain again, why Vinny isn’t harmless in ‘presenting alternative views’

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    4. Tom Osinski MD‏ @TomOsinski22 Jan 26
      Replying to @shmoopythescie1 @BenMazer and

      I still don’t see inherent ‘danger’ in discussing this idea. He is not lying. I mean more arguments can be made on both sides. Like, since it seems that masking and social distancing is reducing the flu burden, should we do this forever?

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    5. Tom Osinski MD‏ @TomOsinski22 Jan 26
      Replying to @TomOsinski22 @shmoopythescie1 and

      Or, at what point does the psychological costs of masking and social distancing override the costs of reducing illness? Does being vaccinated create pressure that may select for mutant stains? He is making an argument. Argue back. Bring in new evidence or holes in the evidence.

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    6. Pras Francis, MD PhD‏ @PrasFrancis Jan 27
      Replying to @TomOsinski22 @shmoopythescie1 and

      It has as much or more to do with the way that he argues as the idea for which is arguing, especially in a public forum where there are so many looking to twist the words of physicians for political gain.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Tom Osinski MD‏ @TomOsinski22 Jan 27
      Replying to @PrasFrancis @shmoopythescie1 and

      So if this is such a big problem, how big of a problem is it? What should be done about his posts?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Pras Francis, MD PhD‏ @PrasFrancis Jan 27
      Replying to @TomOsinski22 @shmoopythescie1 and

      I'm not sure how to define the scale of it. But #medtwitter should at the very least not amplify him and ideally would push back on him for his overconfident sensationalism.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. Tom Osinski MD‏ @TomOsinski22 Jan 27
      Replying to @PrasFrancis @shmoopythescie1 and

      That is my point. He probably gets more attention by everyone going crazy over his statements. Which just feeds into his shtick. He is not doing anything that he should be ‘cancelled’ for. He is just annoying sometimes and should be ignored.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle Jan 27
      Replying to @TomOsinski22 @PrasFrancis and

      It’s just upsetting he is so often a go-to for journalists and others because this crass overconfidence is not a good look for the profession. I realize the journalists select for that, they don’t like statements with uncertainty or complexity or even humility - itself a sign.

      3 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jan 27
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @TomOsinski22 and

      I was a speaker at the Trottier Symposium in Montreal in 2010 and participated in a panel discussion on scicomm. I remember of the panelists explaining how the way to succeed as a TV pundit is to express absolute certainty in your views. No nuance, and NEVER admit error.

      7:13 AM - 27 Jan 2021
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      • Jerry Alexandratos 🇺🇸 Adrian Egli Epon Cherrilaf (Insert Reference Trolls Don't Get) Pras Francis, MD PhD llewelly John Skylar, PhD c0nc0rdance Tom Osinski MD the sailing science shill ⛵️
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        2. Tom Osinski MD‏ @TomOsinski22 Jan 27
          Replying to @gorskon @MarkHoofnagle and

          This is a very important point! This behavior is thus fostered by the acedemic community! Future collaborative effort maybe could address this?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Mark Lindsay‏ @MarkELindsay Jan 27
          Replying to @TomOsinski22 @gorskon and

          It's really not fostered in academia. Academics are the biggest wafflers on earth as most understand complexity. Never admitting you are wrong is TV pundit/politics land and how you sell books. Again it's a SM strategy, I wish more people recognized it as such

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        2. John Skylar, PhD‏ @JohnSkylar Jan 27
          Replying to @gorskon @MarkHoofnagle and

          What a terrible way to build public trust. Weird how Tony Fauci breaks all those rules and is currently the most respected science communicator in government.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jan 27
          Replying to @JohnSkylar @MarkHoofnagle and

          He only gets away with it by virtue of the position he holds in government, which makes him a go-to figure for the press. The rest compete for airtime and interviews.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
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        1. Skeptiguy‏ @Skeptiguy1 Jan 27
          Replying to @gorskon @MarkHoofnagle and

          It's interesting that this does seem to be what gets you portrayed as a trusted expert on TV, when the exact opposite is true in virtually every professional context.

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        1. Tom Osinski MD‏ @TomOsinski22 Jan 30
          Replying to @gorskon @MarkHoofnagle and

          I mean this is what everyone is up againsthttps://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/marjorie-taylor-greene-kevin-mcarthy-jewish-space-lasers.amp …

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