You do realize, don’t you, that for the past year #COVID19 has been the number three cause of death in the US, behind cancer and heart disease. It’s killed considerably more than the next two causes of death (accidents and respiratory disease) combined.https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm …
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Replying to @gorskon @crabb_vicki and
And you should realize that those mortality numbers are inflated due to flawed data collection (comerbidity) combined with overly sensitive PCR tests (35-40x). This virus kills the old and sick. Healthy people are not at risk anymore than they are from flu.
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @crabb_vicki and
They are not inflated. If anything they’re underestimates. Even if it was inflated #
#COVID19 death rates would have to be “inflated” by more turn a factor of two NOT to make#COVID19 the number three cause of death this year.
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Replying to @gorskon @crabb_vicki and
Of old and sick people. If you want to mandate masks for 65+, that at least would be somewhat justified. Forcing my 8yo daughter and my healthy wife (who is a teacher) to wear a mask all day at school is absurd.
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @gorskon and
Here is a chart I did using provisional data from the CDC and CDC Wonder. This compares the number of deaths by age group recorded in 2019, the number of COVID deaths to date, the number of deaths for all deaths that include influenza, pneumonia, and COVID. Citation following.pic.twitter.com/Hksth6gOZs
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Replying to @crabb_vicki @gorskon and
Interesting graph. But this data doesn’t account for flawed data collection - what are labeled as “COVID deaths” actually being caused by comorbidity (CHF, COPD, CKD, etc) combined with overly sensitive PCR tests. Is that not correct?
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @gorskon and
Are you saying they didn't have COVID or they were no longer infectious? You know pts often don't get critically ill until several days into their illness, right? Why are the hospitals seeing so many ARDS patients?
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Replying to @crabb_vicki @gorskon and
No, what I’m saying is a 40x PCR test can detect such a small viral load that a 78yo patient dying of COPD (for example) can come back positive for COVID even if they are not symptomatic w/COVID and not infectious. Yet they are still counted as a “COVID death”.
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @gorskon and
They’re not symptomatic, but they die? Please cite your evidence. Quit repeating propaganda.
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Replying to @crabb_vicki @gorskon and
Vicki, I’m just a guy trying to figure out what’s going on so I can make an accurate threat assessment for my family. I’m trying to untangle the mess of propaganda swirling out there right now. I’m not trying to add to it, ok? I have no other agenda here.
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No, you're JAQing off. That's what you're doing. It's obvious to any skeptic on this thread. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions …
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