Of old and sick people. If you want to mandate masks for 65+, that at least would be somewhat justified. Forcing my 8yo daughter and my healthy wife (who is a teacher) to wear a mask all day at school is absurd.
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @gorskon and
Here is a chart I did using provisional data from the CDC and CDC Wonder. This compares the number of deaths by age group recorded in 2019, the number of COVID deaths to date, the number of deaths for all deaths that include influenza, pneumonia, and COVID. Citation following.pic.twitter.com/Hksth6gOZs
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Replying to @crabb_vicki @gorskon and
Interesting graph. But this data doesn’t account for flawed data collection - what are labeled as “COVID deaths” actually being caused by comorbidity (CHF, COPD, CKD, etc) combined with overly sensitive PCR tests. Is that not correct?
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @gorskon and
Are you saying they didn't have COVID or they were no longer infectious? You know pts often don't get critically ill until several days into their illness, right? Why are the hospitals seeing so many ARDS patients?
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Replying to @crabb_vicki @gorskon and
No, what I’m saying is a 40x PCR test can detect such a small viral load that a 78yo patient dying of COPD (for example) can come back positive for COVID even if they are not symptomatic w/COVID and not infectious. Yet they are still counted as a “COVID death”.
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @crabb_vicki and
“In 2016, COPD was the third leading cause of death worldwide, accounting for around 3 million deaths that year.” https://www.statista.com/topics/4339/chronic-obstructive-pulmonary-disease-copd-in-the-us/ …
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @crabb_vicki and
Do you have access to the data on COPD deaths in the United States in 2020? Because I’d be very interested in looking at that data and I can’t find it online. Maybe it’s not available yet. I’m also interested in the data on flu, CHF, and CKD deaths in 2020.
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @gorskon and
This data is publicly available on CDC Wonder. They just updated the data to include 2019 mortality. https://wonder.cdc.gov/ucd-icd10.html
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Replying to @crabb_vicki @gorskon and
Ok, so 2020 is not available yet. Are there preliminary statistics on COPD (state-by state)?
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Looking for more numbers to cherry pick, I assume?
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