And you should realize that those mortality numbers are inflated due to flawed data collection (comerbidity) combined with overly sensitive PCR tests (35-40x). This virus kills the old and sick. Healthy people are not at risk anymore than they are from flu.
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @crabb_vicki and
They are not inflated. If anything they’re underestimates. Even if it was inflated #
#COVID19 death rates would have to be “inflated” by more turn a factor of two NOT to make#COVID19 the number three cause of death this year.
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Replying to @gorskon @crabb_vicki and
Of old and sick people. If you want to mandate masks for 65+, that at least would be somewhat justified. Forcing my 8yo daughter and my healthy wife (who is a teacher) to wear a mask all day at school is absurd.
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @gorskon and
Here is a chart I did using provisional data from the CDC and CDC Wonder. This compares the number of deaths by age group recorded in 2019, the number of COVID deaths to date, the number of deaths for all deaths that include influenza, pneumonia, and COVID. Citation following.pic.twitter.com/Hksth6gOZs
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Replying to @crabb_vicki @gorskon and
Interesting graph. But this data doesn’t account for flawed data collection - what are labeled as “COVID deaths” actually being caused by comorbidity (CHF, COPD, CKD, etc) combined with overly sensitive PCR tests. Is that not correct?
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @gorskon and
Are you saying they didn't have COVID or they were no longer infectious? You know pts often don't get critically ill until several days into their illness, right? Why are the hospitals seeing so many ARDS patients?
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Replying to @crabb_vicki @gorskon and
No, what I’m saying is a 40x PCR test can detect such a small viral load that a 78yo patient dying of COPD (for example) can come back positive for COVID even if they are not symptomatic w/COVID and not infectious. Yet they are still counted as a “COVID death”.
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @crabb_vicki and
“In 2016, COPD was the third leading cause of death worldwide, accounting for around 3 million deaths that year.” https://www.statista.com/topics/4339/chronic-obstructive-pulmonary-disease-copd-in-the-us/ …
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @crabb_vicki and
Do you have access to the data on COPD deaths in the United States in 2020? Because I’d be very interested in looking at that data and I can’t find it online. Maybe it’s not available yet. I’m also interested in the data on flu, CHF, and CKD deaths in 2020.
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The CDC’s chronic lower respiratory disease category more or less covers that, because COPD includes chronic bronchitis, emphysema, and asthma (which, yes, is a subset of COPD).
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Replying to @gorskon @crabb_vicki and
Are those numbers available yet? I can’t find them. And if sensitive PCR tests for COVID are capturing a big chunk of COPD deaths, then the data for 2020 could reveal by how much. Right?
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Replying to @SimsYStuart @crabb_vicki and
The numbers lag by several months because it takes that long after the end of a year to tally up and categorize all the deaths. And deaths from
#COVID19 will likely be classified as infectious disease deaths, not COPD or chronic lower respiratory disease deaths. Appropriately so.0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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