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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Bertie_222‏ @Bertie_222 Jan 2
      Replying to @ThugaManLaForge @davideyoungmd and

      So you think more people will die from this than if they didn't do it? Proves your point how? No one here suggested giving ivermectin to an entire country before studies were done. If they had 11 RCTs supporting it I'd say it was a pretty good bet

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    2. Captain Save-A-Ho(rnet)‏ @ThugaManLaForge Jan 2
      Replying to @Bertie_222 @davideyoungmd and

      Because my point is that politicians and even M.D.s are not research scientists. Efforts taken by doctors to save lives are not the same as data an organization needs to revise its recommendations.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Bertie_222‏ @Bertie_222 Jan 2
      Replying to @ThugaManLaForge @davideyoungmd and

      The FLCCC doctors include clinicians who are research scientists. Are you a clinician and research scientist?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Captain Save-A-Ho(rnet)‏ @ThugaManLaForge Jan 2
      Replying to @Bertie_222 @davideyoungmd and

      Every meta analysis, even then ones I think are poorly done, indicate that more trials are needed before they can definitively say that Ivermectin works.

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    5. Bertie_222‏ @Bertie_222 Jan 2
      Replying to @ThugaManLaForge @davideyoungmd and

      *Every* competently done study acknowledges the need for more research. Ivermectin is being held to a different standard. Nothing is definitive about many other treatments being used. How many had their lungs blown out early on? Ivermectin has strong support and low downside

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    6. Captain Save-A-Ho(rnet)‏ @ThugaManLaForge Jan 2
      Replying to @Bertie_222 @davideyoungmd and

      There is a reason why the COVID-19 treatment guidelines are so vague in so many areas. Because doctors are going to, must, do what they think is best. That isn't a sufficient argument to change the guidelines. Its being held to the standard everything should be held to.

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    7. Captain Save-A-Ho(rnet)‏ @ThugaManLaForge Jan 2
      Replying to @ThugaManLaForge @Bertie_222 and

      The FLCCC would get farther faster if they didn't talk exactly like HCQ pushers. Sayjng "If you take this you will not get sick in front of congress is thr kind of reckless talk that, even if it later turns out to be true, leaves you twisting in the wind because you lack data.

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    8. Bertie_222‏ @Bertie_222 Jan 2
      Replying to @ThugaManLaForge @davideyoungmd and

      They clearly believe what they are promoting, so you can disagree with them about the studies, but it is petty to question their right to promote what they believe based on the studies. They have an excellent success rate compared to others. They are the experts

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    9. ᕙ_(ಠ ͜͜ ಠ)_ᕗ  🥖 🌹 ⚕️ 4 all‏ @yodelodwho Jan 3
      Replying to @Bertie_222 @ThugaManLaForge and

      They clearly believe, and have supporting evidence, in ivermectn's efficacy. They are ICU doctors, not marketing professionals. Their expertise is in treating COVID patients, not how to pitch their protocol. I assume they're telling it straight—that ivermectn obliterates COVID19.

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jan 4
      Replying to @JaiKanta22 @yodelodwho and

      As was the case with #hydroxychloroquine in March, I am currently agnostic about #ivermectin. As with HCQ then, my best guess for ivermectin now is that it probably either doesn't work or only has a modest effect on #COVID19. As with HCQ then, I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

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        2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jan 4

          Yes!

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        2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jan 4
          Replying to @gorskon @JaiKanta22 and

          What I object to is the massive overselling of #ivermectin without good evidence as, in essence, a miracle cure for #COVID19, just as many of the same people were doing for #hydroxychloroquine several months ago (and some are still doing).

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        1. Alisa Burt (Lillico) vaxxed & still masking!‏ @alisalillico Jan 4
          Replying to @gorskon

          Ivermectin is what we give our foxes to manage mange...gee, it must be a wonder drug...

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        2. REKKON‏ @DigilogDesigns Jan 4
          Replying to @gorskon @JaiKanta22 and

          Since we are “guessing “ here . Mabye the studies on ivermectin are showing results only due to mycoplasm coinfections ..:: the elephant in the room elephant 🐘

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        1. John Sagebiel, Ph.D.‏ @lowco2 Jan 4
          Replying to @gorskon @JaiKanta22 and

          Therein lies the truth of science and a good scientist: be willing to be convinced by the evidence. Thank you for what you do to promote this idea.

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        1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon Jan 4
          Replying to @gorskon @JaiKanta22 and

          That being said, I doubt that, when the decent powered well-designed randomized clinical trials are finally published in the peer-reviewed biomedical literature, #ivermectin will perform much, if any, better than #hydroxychloroquine did when its RCTs were finally published.

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        2. Tzed928 -- Get your damn vaccine!‏ @tzed928 Jan 4
          Replying to @gorskon @JaiKanta22 and

          I've read some of the reports about ivermectin. I don't think they're seeing anything but regression to the mean. Oh, and why are they throwing anti-parasitics at covid ? SARS2 COV2 isn't a parasite, so treatment with ivermectin or hydroxychloroquin should not be indicated.

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        3. Bertie_222‏ @Bertie_222 Jan 4
          Replying to @tzed928 @gorskon and

          Did you know it has antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties? You are a decade or so behind in understanding

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