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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll @gorskon

      I shall spare you the rant on jargon- and stupid medical jokes 'don't mix up my degree 🙄 blah' but if we don't teach people how to search and help them find real information, IMO we got no right to complain about people not knowing. WE MADE SURE THEY DIDN'T FIND US.

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    2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll

      Again, we are talking about two very different things here.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon

      You cannot expect a magnificently educated population the day you need them to be educated. Without putting in the serious background work? Surely you agree there is no short-cut to knowledge....unfortunately.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll @gorskon

      And as I'm at it- this anti-vaxxer talk is just now better. Labelling everyone who is worried about a new vaccine 'anti-vaxx' is just 🙄. Vaccines are drugs. Drugs come with benefits and risks. That's why we got pharmacovigilance experts- those worriers about drug safety.

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    5. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll

      Good thing, then, that that’s not what I do—or anyone else I know. I’ve spent a whole lot of time and verbiage on how to identify antivaxxers, how to distinguish them from the vaccine averse or concerned, and how to approach each. You’re attacking a straw man.

      2 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
    6. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon

      I just think we should drop the TERM all together. Because, frankly, if you were not watchful about a first vaccine against a corona virus ever with a new MOA that got trialled and approved in record speed then I'd think you just didn't understand much about drug development....

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll @gorskon

      Having concerns and asking questions about #COVID19 vaccines does not make one antivaccine. But there are antivaccine activists working to create and spread misinformation to those with concerns. Dropping the term may make them harder to point out.

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    8. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @doritmi @BettinaRyll @gorskon

      Not warming those with questions and concerns about antivaccine activists can make them more easily victims of antivaccine efforts.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    9. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @doritmi @BettinaRyll

      Also, antivaxxers are very good at falsely representing themselves as “not antivax” but rather just “concerned.” The difference is that antivaxxers are not reachable; the vaccine adverse are. That’s why it’s so important to distinguish between the two.

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    10. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon @doritmi

      Which it is *precisely* so important not to throw them all on to the same pile, take true concerns serious and not waste energy on the laggards. Accusing people of being ignorant is a poor educational strategy (but gets you the attention of more educated ones it seems ;-))

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll @doritmi

      Argh! What have I been repeating over the last several Tweets but to emphasize that it’s important to differentiate between the two, as different approaches are required for each one?🤦🏻‍♂️

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        2. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi 26 Dec 2020
          Replying to @gorskon @BettinaRyll

          It sounds like you’re in agreement?

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        3. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
          Replying to @doritmi @gorskon

          Took some time it seems 🤓 it they could just stop ranting about PV laggards and start *focusing* on educating everyone else!!!

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