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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    1. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll @gorskon

      So, no, Science isn't widely available let alone accessible. It's not because *trained* people know where to find it- it's were *everyone* knows how to find it. You know what google throws up wrt Science???

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    2. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll @gorskon

      I shall spare you the rant on jargon- and stupid medical jokes 'don't mix up my degree 🙄 blah' but if we don't teach people how to search and help them find real information, IMO we got no right to complain about people not knowing. WE MADE SURE THEY DIDN'T FIND US.

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    3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll

      Again, we are talking about two very different things here.

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    4. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon

      You cannot expect a magnificently educated population the day you need them to be educated. Without putting in the serious background work? Surely you agree there is no short-cut to knowledge....unfortunately.

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    5. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll @gorskon

      And as I'm at it- this anti-vaxxer talk is just now better. Labelling everyone who is worried about a new vaccine 'anti-vaxx' is just 🙄. Vaccines are drugs. Drugs come with benefits and risks. That's why we got pharmacovigilance experts- those worriers about drug safety.

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    6. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll

      Good thing, then, that that’s not what I do—or anyone else I know. I’ve spent a whole lot of time and verbiage on how to identify antivaxxers, how to distinguish them from the vaccine averse or concerned, and how to approach each. You’re attacking a straw man.

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    7. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon

      I just think we should drop the TERM all together. Because, frankly, if you were not watchful about a first vaccine against a corona virus ever with a new MOA that got trialled and approved in record speed then I'd think you just didn't understand much about drug development....

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    8. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll

      I’m not going to drop a term that accurately describes a movement. That’s EXACTLY what real antivaxxers want and would be a major victory for them.

      1 reply 2 retweets 38 likes
    9. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon @BettinaRyll

      As for me not knowing much about drug development... 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

      3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    10. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon

      All I am saying is that we should not label anyone who has any concerns about a vaccine indiscriminately as anti-vaxxer. Granularity matters. Thought that was obvious🤔🤔🤔

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
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      And I said we don’t do that and that you’re attacking a straw man. I thought THAT was obvious.https://twitter.com/gorskon/status/1339670094625042444 …

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      David Gorski, MD, PhDVerified account @gorskon
      You'll hear me use the phrase a lot. There ARE antivaxxers. They are the leaders of the antivaccine movement, the bloggers, the conspiracy theorists. These are not the "vaccine-averse," "vaccine curious," or "vaccine concerned." They are antivaxxers. 1/ https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1339369587628859397 …
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        1. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
          Replying to @gorskon

          Ok. As these are apparently those 'beyond-redemption' whom you will never convince- those laggards of any innovation not to focus on- then I don't understand why you even giving them a stage?

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