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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
sciencebasedmedicine.org
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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Bettina Ryll

      This has little or nothing to do with it, as the antivaccine movement has long shown. Prominent members have access, either themselves or through sympathetic contacts. They’ve long used that access to cherry pick and misrepresent the science.https://twitter.com/BettinaRyll/status/1342921143116845061 …

      David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

      Bettina Ryll @BettinaRyll
      Maybe this is actually one on us as scientific community. As long as we insist on publishing behind paywalls and in jargon so opaque our own spouses don't get it- how can we actually *expect* anyone outside our own narrow field to know what we are doing? https://twitter.com/gorskon/status/1342868819036020737 …
      5 replies 7 retweets 66 likes
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    2. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon

      First, I've been running a cancer patient network for 7 years now. And we are acidic about scientific education. People do not have access to scientific news- they even don't know it exists. So tabloid is what they get.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll @gorskon

      I spend a *good* time of my life teaching patients how to reach scientific articles. After *how to find them and how to access them*. And those are the motivated ones- if you got a #Melanoma killing you, learning Science isn't that scary.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll @gorskon

      So, no, Science isn't widely available let alone accessible. It's not because *trained* people know where to find it- it's were *everyone* knows how to find it. You know what google throws up wrt Science???

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll @gorskon

      I shall spare you the rant on jargon- and stupid medical jokes 'don't mix up my degree 🙄 blah' but if we don't teach people how to search and help them find real information, IMO we got no right to complain about people not knowing. WE MADE SURE THEY DIDN'T FIND US.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll

      Again, we are talking about two very different things here.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon

      You cannot expect a magnificently educated population the day you need them to be educated. Without putting in the serious background work? Surely you agree there is no short-cut to knowledge....unfortunately.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll @gorskon

      And as I'm at it- this anti-vaxxer talk is just now better. Labelling everyone who is worried about a new vaccine 'anti-vaxx' is just 🙄. Vaccines are drugs. Drugs come with benefits and risks. That's why we got pharmacovigilance experts- those worriers about drug safety.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll

      Good thing, then, that that’s not what I do—or anyone else I know. I’ve spent a whole lot of time and verbiage on how to identify antivaxxers, how to distinguish them from the vaccine averse or concerned, and how to approach each. You’re attacking a straw man.

      2 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
    10. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon

      I just think we should drop the TERM all together. Because, frankly, if you were not watchful about a first vaccine against a corona virus ever with a new MOA that got trialled and approved in record speed then I'd think you just didn't understand much about drug development....

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
      Replying to @BettinaRyll

      I’m not going to drop a term that accurately describes a movement. That’s EXACTLY what real antivaxxers want and would be a major victory for them.

      12:53 PM - 26 Dec 2020
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        2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
          Replying to @gorskon @BettinaRyll

          As for me not knowing much about drug development... 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

          3 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
        3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020
          Replying to @gorskon @BettinaRyll

          David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted David Gorski, MD, PhD

          Here’s a recent thread on antivaxxers.https://twitter.com/gorskon/status/1339670094625042444 …

          David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

          David Gorski, MD, PhDVerified account @gorskon
          You'll hear me use the phrase a lot. There ARE antivaxxers. They are the leaders of the antivaccine movement, the bloggers, the conspiracy theorists. These are not the "vaccine-averse," "vaccine curious," or "vaccine concerned." They are antivaxxers. 1/ https://twitter.com/ASlavitt/status/1339369587628859397 …
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        2. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
          Replying to @RealJesseLuke @gorskon

          I think many with a scientific training do not realise how much we absorb that type of thinking. That doesn't mean that people without a scientific training can't think straight- they just don't think by our rules.

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