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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020

    David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Bettina Ryll

    This has little or nothing to do with it, as the antivaccine movement has long shown. Prominent members have access, either themselves or through sympathetic contacts. They’ve long used that access to cherry pick and misrepresent the science.https://twitter.com/BettinaRyll/status/1342921143116845061 …

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    Bettina Ryll @BettinaRyll
    Maybe this is actually one on us as scientific community. As long as we insist on publishing behind paywalls and in jargon so opaque our own spouses don't get it- how can we actually *expect* anyone outside our own narrow field to know what we are doing? https://twitter.com/gorskon/status/1342868819036020737 …
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      2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020

        Open access to primary research and cranks cherry picking or misrepresenting that primary research are separate issues, and, at the very least, more open access will not mitigate the problem of cranks with big blind spots because honest understanding is not what cranks are about.

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      3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2020

        I’m all for more open access. I do not, however, expect it to decrease the severity of the problem we have with cranks that I described. If anything, it might make the problem worse by making it easier to cherry pick, a risk I’m willing to take.

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      2. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
        Replying to @gorskon

        First, I've been running a cancer patient network for 7 years now. And we are acidic about scientific education. People do not have access to scientific news- they even don't know it exists. So tabloid is what they get.

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      3. Bettina Ryll‏ @BettinaRyll 26 Dec 2020
        Replying to @BettinaRyll @gorskon

        I spend a *good* time of my life teaching patients how to reach scientific articles. After *how to find them and how to access them*. And those are the motivated ones- if you got a #Melanoma killing you, learning Science isn't that scary.

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      2. Magnus Borgh  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🇸🇪‏ @SpinVector 26 Dec 2020
        Replying to @gorskon

        Quite. There is a lot to be said about academic publishing, outrageous fees and open access, but it will not cure this disease, nor will it do all that much for public understanding of science. For that we need good science journalism and science communication.

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      3. Magnus Borgh  🇪🇺 🇬🇧 🇸🇪‏ @SpinVector 26 Dec 2020
        Replying to @SpinVector @gorskon

        OA may or may not help both those activities and OA may be good for many other reasons. I don’t, however, think that the general public will suddenly start reading and understanding technical research literature written for more or less narrow, expert audiences.

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      1. Kevin Kehres‏ @kevin_kehres 26 Dec 2020
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        Confirmation bias -- only paying attention to a small % of research -- is also a problem.

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      2. Christina‏ @renissance_1 26 Dec 2020
        Replying to @gorskon

        Yeah, I agree doctor, they know how to access paywalled information and a lot of them actually navigate the terms pretty well (Catie for example). They learn quickly and not all of them are ignorant, by a long shot. This definitely isn’t part of why they’re the way they are.

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      3. Christina‏ @renissance_1 26 Dec 2020
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        2: As you said, it’s cherry-picking and it’s motivated reasoning. Or picking low quality debunked studies/papers because it fits their narratives.

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