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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
sciencebasedmedicine.org
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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 4 Dec 2020

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted KizzyPhD

      Sad, but not unexpected.https://twitter.com/KizzyPhD/status/1334773251957002244 …

      David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

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      KizzyPhDVerified account @KizzyPhD
      In Jan, when we decided to “go for it” and respond with a rapid vaccine effort to combat this pandemic, I knew I’d lose a lot of sleep, but I would have never thought we’d be weeks from rolling out 95% effective vaccines and I’d be losing sleep combating misinformation. pic.twitter.com/aoyKnNkAId
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      5 replies 1 retweet 48 likes
    2. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 4 Dec 2020
      Replying to @gorskon

      Yet many of us did. I feel like we’ve been warning of the misinformation singularity for over a decade while people accuse us of dunking on 7 foot hoops. A better analogy is fire suppression. You don’t ignore little fires because they’re small.

      2 replies 1 retweet 11 likes
    3. Sarah Grynpas‏ @SarahGrynpas 4 Dec 2020
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @gorskon

      From what I can tell it’s not misinformation born of lack of knowledge. It’s trying to win the PR war so your preferred information influences policy abs culture and changes material circumstances. Misinformation follows ideology, not vice versa. And everyone makes that mistake.

      1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
    4. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 4 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SarahGrynpas @gorskon

      Oh yes. Denialists are almost always familiar with the counterarguments. Until their tactics are inoculated against and made verboten, they thrive. That’s why we should oppose all conspiracism, all phony experts a d rhetorical slught of hand - not just that which conflicts.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Sarah Grynpas‏ @SarahGrynpas 4 Dec 2020
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @gorskon

      We've made listing the logical fallacies into an intellctual exercise. We can recite them all. The issue isn't knowing the tactics. It's that facts aren't immovabe things. They change with circumstance so we're all trying to change the circumstances that change the facts.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 4 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SarahGrynpas @gorskon

      It's more than that. We need to reject conspiracism. Conspiracy theory should result in a visceral reaction like shitting in the street. It's terrible, pathologic, sociopathic and libelous behavior that is designed to erase empathy for others. Logical fallacies are toppings.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Sarah Grynpas‏ @SarahGrynpas 4 Dec 2020
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @gorskon

      Given that everyone throws around the term “conspiracy theory” as one of our biggest insults, what more can we do? We all loudly claim we hate the behaviour we’re practicing, just like Jordan Peterson preaching honesty and sobriety.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 4 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SarahGrynpas @gorskon

      We could actually punish it with social consequence. We can react to people who do it like Giuliani tooting away in the court room.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Sarah Grynpas‏ @SarahGrynpas 4 Dec 2020
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @gorskon

      I think the past four years are a clear indication of how little people care about shaming. They form their enclaves and fight for their own power, to have enough to do the shaming themselves.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 4 Dec 2020
      Replying to @SarahGrynpas @gorskon

      We never really shamed them. Worse. We pointed television cameras at them 24/7. We let the idiot spout them unopposed in any meaningful way. But there are signs of progress. Media now calls out CT, and lies aggressively, they have reporters on disinfo beat.

      2 replies 3 retweets 4 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 4 Dec 2020
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @SarahGrynpas

      Indeed, but I still think that society gives them too many rewards in terms of the rewards of attention, fame, and opportunities for grift.

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