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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 5 Oct 2020

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      You have no idea what you are talking about, and, sadly, Dr. Barrett, as much as I admire his history and work, is far behind the times on this. In the US, DOs are equivalent to MDs. They do the same postgraduate residencies. They are no more likely to be quacks than MDs. https://twitter.com/sapinker/status/1312975755815591936 …

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    2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 5 Oct 2020

      In fact, @sapinker, it might behoove you to know that, as of July 1, 2020, MD and DO residencies are accredited and overseen by the same council.https://www.sgu.edu/blog/medical/do-md-merger-explained/ …

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    3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 5 Oct 2020

      Also, nice of Pinker to limit who can reply, leaving my only option to quote-Tweet him to tell him how ignorant he is about this.

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    4. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 5 Oct 2020

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      Oh, it's on now, @sapinker. Don't you dare quote the blog I edit to support your ignorant take on DOs. It does not support your claim; indeed the vast majority of DOs in the US do not use osteopathy. https://twitter.com/sapinker/status/1313123511796367360?s=20 …

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    5. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 5 Oct 2020

      Much of the confusion comes from osteopathy in the US compared to the rest of the world. In much of the rest of the world, osteopathic doctors are more like chiropractors than MDs.

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    6. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 5 Oct 2020

      That's not true in the US, where DO schools teach the same curriculum as MD schools, plus, admittedly, osteopathy. However, the residencies are now the same, and some of the finest doctors I've ever worked with are DOs.

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    7. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 5 Oct 2020

      Are there DOs who are quacks? Of course. (@mercola and @DrButtar come immediately to mind.) However, I can name more MDs who are quacks (probably because there are more MDs than DOs); e.g., @kellybroganmd, Stanislaw Burzynski, @DrOz, etc.

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 5 Oct 2020

      To reiterate, there's no evidence that, in the US at least, DOs are more prone to be quacks or incompetent than MDs.

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      • tamedthoughts Primarily Inattentive Jen☂️ Kyle Swanson MD Gwen Jones (she/her) Ryan Armstrong Joe Wood Horace Hubris Christian Casteel, DO Apoorva Chandra
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        2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 5 Oct 2020

          In fact, @SciPeds prefaced the post @sapinker cited thusly: "I would like to preface this post by stating that I have worked with many DOs (Doctors of Osteopathy), and I have helped train many pediatric residents with DO degrees..."

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        3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 5 Oct 2020

          "...I have found no difference in the overall quality of the training these students have received, and some of the very best clinicians I have ever worked with have been DOs..."

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        4. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 5 Oct 2020

          "...I would never prejudice my assessment or opinion of a physician based on whether they have an MD or a DO after their name." Funny how @sapinker ignored @SciPeds clear statement that DOs and MDs are equivalent in the US.

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        2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 5 Oct 2020
          Replying to @igloowarriorHM4

          To be fair, outside of the US, there is a big difference between DOs and MDs. I get that confusion a lot from skeptics in Europe and Australia and have to explain the situation here in the US.

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        1. Phillip Blackwell‏ @pblackwellDS 5 Oct 2020
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          The free speech guy doesn't want people to comment lol

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        1. David Stephenson‏ @stephend50 5 Oct 2020
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          there was that DO in A2 who treated sepsis from acute diverticulitis with spinal manipulation. Internship back in the 70s. I think he's retired now. I hope he's retired now.

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        1. John Conybeare‏ @John_Conybeare 5 Oct 2020
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          I had surgery performed by a DO last year, and I am still alive.

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        2. Timothy Poore‏ @bionicjam 5 Oct 2020
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          There was a study in JAMA Network in Dec 2018, that may not say incompetent but DO’s were more likely to be excluded from state and federal insurance programs for fraud. Admittedly there are limitations in what can be determined from the data reported via the strike force

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        3. Timothy Poore‏ @bionicjam 5 Oct 2020
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          For the record, I’ve always used DO for our family until only recently when my insurance didn’t cover the docs my family had been seeing for over a decade. But it worked out because now my doc is an old friend from college, small world

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