Yet we aren't referring to them as "resident" or "fellow" in-front of the patient. Certainly not "doctor" either. If people are doing that, that's wrong. This is what "medical setting" means. Language matters, particularly for patients.
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Replying to @Avierr1 @angrymeds and
Okay why? Why would it be wrong? Why isn't a graduate of a professional doctoral program worthy of the title doctor? It's right there on the degree in black and white. What actual reasoning is there that we can't have medical residents, pharmacy residents, dental residents, etc?
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Replying to @Ticagrelauren @Avierr1 and
The reasoning is that there are doctors who are such special snowflakes that they’re threatened by the use of the title “doctor” by a nonphysician because they’re protecting what they see as their turf. It’s just that simple.
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Replying to @gorskon @Ticagrelauren and
This is about what patients deserve, and they deserve to know who is treating them. Unlike what you're claiming with your strawman. It doesn't matter what dental students, PhDs, PAs, NPs, etc. so forth want. What matters is that the patient deserves to know who is their doctor.
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Replying to @Avierr1 @Ticagrelauren and
Nah. It's about turf protection donning the mantle of claims that it's about protecting patients.
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Replying to @gorskon @Ticagrelauren and
Repeating strawmans doesn't make it true, and it isn't convincing. Ironic emojis aside, you should really take the issues being brought up seriously instead of trying to ego stroke other professions. There's only one side here making this about "turf", instead of the patients.
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Replying to @Avierr1 @Ticagrelauren and
That's because there's only one side that can't afford to admit that it's largely about turf.
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Replying to @gorskon @Ticagrelauren and
No it seems one side wants to deflect by drawing up and attack arguments that don't actually exist, and can't fathom to admit what they want actually hurts patients. Because in reality they want to be called "doctor" since they are more obsessed with status than doctors are.
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Replying to @Avierr1 @Ticagrelauren and
That must be why physicians like you are going to such lengths to deny them the title.
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Replying to @gorskon @Ticagrelauren and
The only group going at lengths are the ones lobbying politicians with millions to get their way, while actively lying about physicians as the NP groups constantly do. Keep making ironic strawmans. I'll sleep at night knowing I'm on the patient's side, and instead of my ego.
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Funny you should mention ego. (I was going to but didn't bother.) That's another key driving force behind physician attacks on APRNs. Some physicians just can't deal with the fact that non-physicians can do a significant fraction of what they can do. Project much?
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