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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 30 Aug 2020

    David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPH

    The thing about vaccines is that, because they are preventative measures given to people without disease, it’s not really possible to know if benefits > risks without testing them on large numbers of people; i.e., doing proper phase 3 clinical trials.https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1300080022602969089 …

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    Ashish K. Jha, MD, MPHVerified account @ashishkjha
    .@US_FDA chief @SteveFDA suggesting he could issue EUA for a vaccine if benefit > risk That is totally inappropriate Unlike therapies, which are given to sick people, vaccines are given to healthy people Needs a higher bar Full (expedited) review after completed phase 3 https://twitter.com/AndyBiotech/status/1300048540991922177 …
    7:40 AM - 30 Aug 2020
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    • Julia Barnes-Weise Keith Robison #ChennaiAyurveda #Chennai (DR NITIN CHAUBE) Kelly Janet Prvu Bettger, ScD MS Dr. Shenoy Robinson MD The Office of Sue Santoro Ishaan Mishra Winnie
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      2. (((Dorit Reiss)))‏Verified account @doritmi 30 Aug 2020
        Replying to @gorskon

        The thing is, an EUA for a Covid-19 vaccine may be the right thing in some circumstances. I think the problem is that at this point, because of their latest actions, we don’t trust the FDA to get the circumstances right.

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      3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 30 Aug 2020
        Replying to @doritmi

        Outside of (possibly) a situation of *incredibly* high community transmission, I can’t imagine a situation where an EUA would be justifiable.

        3 replies 4 retweets 22 likes
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      1. DocBurke AKA 'Triple-vaxxed' MD‏ @burke_doc 30 Aug 2020
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        DocBurke AKA 'Triple-vaxxed' MD Retweeted DocBurke AKA 'Triple-vaxxed' MD

        https://twitter.com/burke_doc/status/1299462071650856961?s=19 …

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        DocBurke AKA 'Triple-vaxxed' MD @burke_doc
        A THREAD Experience from a physician test subject in the Pfizer COVID vaccine trial August 2020, Pfizer and BioNTech are launching a 2 year phase 3 clinical trial for an RNA-based vaccine for COVID Observer blind, placebo controlled trial with 30K subjects 1/n
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      1. Edward Nirenberg‏ @ENirenberg 30 Aug 2020
        Replying to @gorskon

        I have a small quibble with that- you can demonstrate efficacy with a challenge study relatively easily But of course because of the relatively small sample size you can miss a lot of AEs so these really should not be the norm for how vaccines get licensure

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      1. Mike Doughney‏ @MikeDoughney 30 Aug 2020
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        Well, at the moment a "vaccine" is most likely to be a placebo being used as a political device.

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      1. Lorelei Armstrong‏ @fusepark 30 Aug 2020
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        Still waiting to hear how the "everybody in the phase three pool" experiment in Russia is working out.

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