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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 13 Aug 2020

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Brandon Dyer

      No. It was not. This bit of disinformation being spread by Dr. Dyer is based on a mistranslation (or, if you're feeling VERY generous, and incredibly loose translation) of the German word "behandler."https://twitter.com/BrandonADyer/status/1293569648466698240 …

      David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

      Brandon Dyer @BrandonADyer
      #MedTwitter we are doctors or physicians, not providers. “Provider” was a term first used by The Third Reich (Nazis) to devalue Jewish physicians as medical professionals. When someone calls you a provider -- help educate them.
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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 13 Aug 2020

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Robert Lucke

      Here's someone who schooled doctors trying to use this mistranslation to make the same incorrect claim.https://twitter.com/Desrobertl/status/1188812741508775936?s=20 …

      David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

      Robert Lucke @Desrobertl
      Replying to @gorskon
      dt. "behandeln" - engl. to treat (a patient) dt. "Behandlung" - engl. treatment dt. "Behandler" - the person who treats patients the term "provider" would rather be translated as "Dienstleister" (=sb. who offers a service)
      2:20 PM - 13 Aug 2020
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        2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 13 Aug 2020

          David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All

          Or, as it was put here, quite well...https://twitter.com/Stormageddon666/status/1189124199304044545 …

          David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

          Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All @Stormageddon666
          Replying to @gorskon
          Yes, quite freely indeed. There's several equally plausible translations for "Behandler". "treater", "curer", "attender"... all at the very least not WRONG. Also, you'd need throw any remnants of context into the dumpster to get to this absurd nazi analogy.
          1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
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        3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 13 Aug 2020

          David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Patrick Marcinek

          And another one weighs in...https://twitter.com/scientist_iam/status/1188807696151203842 …

          David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

          Patrick Marcinek @scientist_iam
          Replying to @gorskon
          There are so many degrees of freedom in this translation, it's basically loose.
          2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
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        4. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 13 Aug 2020

          David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Brandon Dyer

          I agree that words matter, but not in the way @BrandonADyer thinks they do. It's he who is abusing language and repeating a misrepresentation of etymology to whine about being called a "provider." 🙄https://twitter.com/BrandonADyer/status/1293570935392358407?s=20 …

          David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

          Brandon Dyer @BrandonADyer
          Words matter. The etymology of these words deserve our attention and reflection, lest we forget the historical mistakes -- or worse, repeat them.
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