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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 7 Apr 2020

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Steven Skelton

      So the “you’re rooting for the virus” sort of idiots who come out of the woodwork when I criticize the promotion of unproven #Hydroxychloroquine for #COVID19 also exist for economics. Lovely. 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️https://twitter.com/StevenSkelton1/status/1247522652786319364 …

      David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

      Steven Skelton @StevenSkelton1
      Replying to @paulkrugman
      I’m beginning to wonder if you’re rooting for Americans to die and our economy to enter depression?
      7 replies 6 retweets 59 likes
    2. Dan Laird  🏥 🏛‏ @DanLairdMD 7 Apr 2020
      Replying to @gorskon

      I think the concern is that you don’t seem particularly concerned about any of the other multiple unproven meds being used Experimentally to treat coronavirus. Wonder why that would be...🤷🏽‍♂️

      8 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Kevin Kehres‏ @kevin_kehres 7 Apr 2020
      Replying to @DanLairdMD @gorskon

      None of them are being incessantly promoted as the cure (hint: it isn't) by POTUS. BIG difference. YUGE.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    4. Dan Laird  🏥 🏛‏ @DanLairdMD 7 Apr 2020
      Replying to @kevin_kehres @gorskon

      I guess I missed where Trump promoted it as a "cure." Do you happen to have a reference?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Kevin Kehres‏ @kevin_kehres 7 Apr 2020
      Replying to @DanLairdMD @gorskon

      March 21, Trump said it has a "real chance to be one of the biggest game-changers in history." Quoted by a variety of news outlets. Hint: It's not. How do we know? 1. China 1st reported it. Didn't change their game. 2. It's being used ALREADY in hospitals empirically. No change

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 7 Apr 2020
      Replying to @kevin_kehres @DanLairdMD

      If #Hydroxychloroquine truly had the super dramatic “game changing” antivirus activity against #COVID19 claimed by some proponents, we would have seen it in the existing small trials. We didn’t. It’s therefore likely that its activity, if there even is any, is modest at best.

      11:30 AM - 7 Apr 2020
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        2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 7 Apr 2020
          Replying to @gorskon @kevin_kehres @DanLairdMD

          Or we would’ve at least seen hints of such activity. We didn’t.

          1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. Kevin Kehres‏ @kevin_kehres 7 Apr 2020
          Replying to @gorskon @DanLairdMD

          Modest in certain situations, like helping to prevent people with severe illness from getting cathed. That's my uninformed guess, based on the anecdotal reports, willing (hoping, even) to be proved wrong by the data.

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        2. ThinkDeep(R) 💎‏ @thatzaman 7 Apr 2020
          Replying to @gorskon @kevin_kehres @DanLairdMD

          https://www.contagionlive.com/news/results-from-a-controlled-trial-of-hydroxychloroquine-for-covid19 …

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Kevin Kehres‏ @kevin_kehres 7 Apr 2020
          Replying to @thatzaman @gorskon @DanLairdMD

          They excluded severely ill patients from the study!! So, people who were going to get better got better a little faster? And it doesn't look like they adjusted for date of infection or any other important parameter. This is a crap study.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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        2. James Angstman‏ @JamesAngstman 7 Apr 2020
          Replying to @gorskon @kevin_kehres @DanLairdMD

          We need to stop thinking it’s an antiviral and focus on its anti-inflammatory properties. If it’s got efficacy, it will be less like its antimalarial self and more like its anti-RA self. If this is true we need to note that early (prophylactic) administration will worsen outcomes

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. James Angstman‏ @JamesAngstman 7 Apr 2020
          Replying to @JamesAngstman @gorskon and

          Study showing premature inhibition if the inflammasome leads to worse outcomes during influenza infection (in mice) https://www.nature.com/articles/srep27912 …

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Dan Laird  🏥 🏛‏ @DanLairdMD 7 Apr 2020
          Replying to @gorskon @kevin_kehres

          Yup, or it may even turn out to be harmful. Or there may be a window during which it's helpful. We just don't know right now. But patients have a right to know the alternatives, risks, and benefits, regardless of the political views of the person prescribing it...

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Kevin Kehres‏ @kevin_kehres 7 Apr 2020
          Replying to @DanLairdMD @gorskon

          We just don't know is LIGHT YEARS from the over-the-top claims Trump has made. It's irresponsible. On the level of drinking bleach for autism irresponsible.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. John Mashey‏ @JohnMashey 7 Apr 2020
          Replying to @gorskon @kevin_kehres @DanLairdMD

          John Mashey Retweeted John Mashey

          And for more, @UCSF's @annieluet speaks a few minutes on two slides, including trciky issue of getting dosage right to see if there is anything useful at all. She goes over 4 studies. https://twitter.com/JohnMashey/status/1246126115841658882 … e7-8

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          John Mashey @JohnMashey
          e7/ Hydroxycloroquine Who ever thought we’d be talking so much about HCQ and it’s increasingly confusing to understand exactly what it’s actually doing. Recall MOST patients get better. Can't conclude much yet. Likely need >400mg 2X/day, maybe 600. https://youtu.be/UdUci2Y9QB8?t=3229 … pic.twitter.com/QOTJs0oZx0
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        2. Kevin Kehres‏ @kevin_kehres 7 Apr 2020

          Read the published literature. That modest, at best. Not better than that modest. Seriously, the horse is dead. Stop flogging it.

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