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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    1. PalMD‏ @palmd 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @drjkahn @Chrest_brett

      1) link please, 2) that’s a nonsequitor.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    2. PalMD‏ @palmd 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @palmd @drjkahn @Chrest_brett

      I’ve googled the fuck out of that Joel and I don’t see anything from fda or cdc about making colloidal silver.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Brett Chrest‏ @Chrest_brett 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @palmd @drjkahn

      In fact, it seems to be quite the opposite https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-update-fda-and-ftc-warn-seven-companies-selling-fraudulent-products-claim-treat-or …

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Joel Kahn MD, FACC‏ @drjkahn 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @Chrest_brett @palmd

      Not makers of Argentyn, a company driven by science with a unique bio-active hydrosol base. Not all cars are the same. Not all silver is either

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Brett Chrest‏ @Chrest_brett 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @drjkahn @palmd

      Brett Chrest Retweeted Brett Chrest

      There has indeed been harm from Argentyn. One such study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6745401/ … The fact that it might be slightly different has well, made no difference. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5702207/ …https://twitter.com/Chrest_brett/status/1238271984280059905 …

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      Brett Chrest @Chrest_brett
      Replying to @drjkahn @YoniFreedhoff and 3 others
      Maybe you don't read research in humans? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6543947/ … https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6745401/ … https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18478796  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5702207/ … https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19632917  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15981703  https://twitter.com/Chrest_brett/status/1238270574066974723 …
      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Joel Kahn MD, FACC‏ @drjkahn 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @Chrest_brett @palmd

      Probably not a good idea to use an oral agent in an IV. Agree? The dose and route are on the packaging.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Joel Kahn MD, FACC‏ @drjkahn 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @drjkahn @Chrest_brett @palmd

      If you want to learn about the proper uses of bio-active silver hydrosol, this is an informative discussion.https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/natural-medicine-journal-podcast/id1112377770?i=1000463380292 …

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Brett Chrest‏ @Chrest_brett 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @drjkahn @palmd

      You've got to be kidding me, this is the equivalent to company promotion propaganda — have no idea if I can trust what is being said. As for their references — Zero evidence for efficacy in humans.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    9. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @Chrest_brett @drjkahn @palmd

      Colloidal silver is quackery that can turn you into a Smurf if you use it too much.https://respectfulinsolence.com/2007/12/21/colloidal-silver-the-real-blue-man-group/ …

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    10. Joel Kahn MD, FACC‏ @drjkahn 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @gorskon @Chrest_brett @palmd

      Man. You are so out of date. No knowledge of the progress in the field. Too bad. 31 minutes from now you can know more.https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/natural-medicine-journal-podcast/id1112377770?i=1000463380292 …

      2 replies 1 retweet 2 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 21 Mar 2020
      Replying to @drjkahn @Chrest_brett @palmd

      No, I’m not, actually. If I were, you’d be able to cite peer-reviewed studies reporting the results of well-designed randomized clinical trials rather than a podcast.🤦‍♂️

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        1. Rubin Bhatia, MD, MBA‏ @rubinmd 21 Mar 2020
          Replying to @gorskon @drjkahn and

          Motivated reasoning and desire for fame through podcast to people not familiar with science based medicine. Trying to convince such a guy just with a rational arguments! You are too optimistic

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        1. Brett Chrest‏ @Chrest_brett 21 Mar 2020
          Replying to @gorskon @drjkahn @palmd

          I'd like to take a quick second to say that Joel has been interested in, and citing, this idea of nanomedicine...which is sorta where this silver comes into play. BUT I'd love to point out that this is apart of a WAY bigger fraudulent issue:https://forbetterscience.com/2020/03/19/thomas-webster-to-save-the-world-with-covid-19-nanoparticles/ …

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