Can Bernie name which of the countries he's listed has a single payer "Medicare for All"-style system of universal health insurance and which have an Obamacare-like system of mandatory health insurance with subsidies for the poor plus a public option (which Obamacare lacks)?https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1227959382387941382 …
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Moroever, even in Canada the Medicare system is not totally "national." Rather, it consists of 13 provincial and territorial health insurance plans that operate under guidelines set by the federal government. That's more like Medicaid in the US than Medicare.
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You're absolutely right about that, but it gies without saying that every ine of those countries has a health system, which is whta the US lacks
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If the ACA was not partially dismantled, the US would actually have a very similar system to what you find in the Netherlands and Switzerland.
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Especially since in BernieWorld "our idea" is literally M4A.
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I disagree. To me, the above list shows which countries have universal health care, period. It says nothing, nor does it imply, what "kind" of universal health care that is.
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Do you consider the ACA in its original form universal health care?
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Agreed, nationalized health care is only three(ish) of those. The majority are some combination of public and private systems, work-based insurance, subsidized private insurance, health savings etc.
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Universal, however, is correct, and is the goal, no matter how it is achieved.
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“Deceptively” doing a lot of work here.
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All industrialized countries except the USA have a not-for-profit health insurance system that covers everyone. Not all of those systems are single-payer, but single-payer is more efficient than multi-payer. https://pnhp.org/
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