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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Hilda Bastian, PhD‏ @hildabast 26 Jan 2020

      Interesting study of experts engaging on social media (vax, nutrition, Facebook). Recurring problem: "expert burnout...which can produce empathic failure, undermin[ing] the quantity & quality of answers" @AvivSharon &co. 💯 Empathic failure is a menace! https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0963662519899884 …pic.twitter.com/in1o6PLcXs

      2 replies 9 retweets 23 likes
    2. Oaklandish Dude‏ @oaklandishdude 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @hildabast @liminalphase @AvivSharon

      Wait confronted with stupidity day in and day out we are saying that even experts are human and lose their ability to talk rationally and logically to the crazy and stupid.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    3. Aviv Sharon‏ @AvivSharon 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @oaklandishdude @hildabast @liminalphase

      To be fair, as far as I can tell, most of the people who asked questions on the Facebook groups I studied were neither crazy nor stupid. This kind of approach is usually unhelpful for #scicomm

      1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
    4. Oaklandish Dude‏ @oaklandishdude 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @AvivSharon @hildabast @liminalphase

      Anti-vaxers are sane, climate deniers? They are like locust.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Aviv Sharon‏ @AvivSharon 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @oaklandishdude @hildabast @liminalphase

      Most people who asked questions on the vaccine group I studied were not anti-vaxxers. Many of them would probably consider themselves as vaccine hesitant, still making up their mind on the issue.

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Liz Crocker‏ @liminalphase 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @AvivSharon @oaklandishdude @hildabast

      Similar experience. Don't confuse grifters like Wakefield with genuinely concerned & unsure parents. Google "are vaccines safe" & spend an afternoon in the rabbit holes. If you didn't have good new media literacy & a science background it would be easy to end up worried.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Oaklandish Dude‏ @oaklandishdude 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @liminalphase @AvivSharon @hildabast

      Agreed. The said part is that it all comes down to society having trust in the advice that is given. It still easy to confuse people with the simplest of misdirection. It is a tough road. I watch people like @gorskon debunk stuff all the time. It has only gotten worse.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Liz Crocker‏ @liminalphase 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @oaklandishdude @AvivSharon and

      Voiced distrust in expert authority from cultural leaders (political, religious, lifestyle) has really disrupted that trust. But sadly there are also good logical reasons to sometimes distrust experts' claims of safety (ex: Tuskegee, Flint). Skepticism isn't irrational

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    9. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @liminalphase @oaklandishdude and

      One has to remember that what hard core antivaxxers voice is not skepticism. It is denial and conspiracy theories.

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    10. Liz Crocker‏ @liminalphase 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @gorskon @oaklandishdude and

      Research suggests engaging w/ everyone like a conspiracist pushes on the fence towards the conspiracy - not away. My experience engaging parents about vaccines is that many are just scared but willing to engage in dialogue. Being empathetic & addressing fears goes a long way

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 27 Jan 2020
      Replying to @liminalphase @oaklandishdude and

      I'm not advocating engaging everyone like a conspiracist. However, you're not going to persuade the hard core antivaxxers, no matter how empathetic you are They're too far gone, and their identities have become too invested in antivax ideology, like politics or religion.

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        2. Liz Crocker‏ @liminalphase 27 Jan 2020
          Replying to @gorskon @oaklandishdude and

          Sure, I don't waste my time when it is clear someone is a troll or uninterested in actual dialogue. And definitely trolls wear down on scientists doing public engagement, which is part of what the study is looking at. My solution has been to take breaks & celebrate the small wins

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
        3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 27 Jan 2020
          Replying to @liminalphase @oaklandishdude and

          Right. And all I was pointing out that it is important to learn to differentiate the hard core antivaxxers, all of whom are major league conspiracy theorists, from the merely vaccine hesitant, who could be reachable. Different tactics are required for each.

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