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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2019

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Mia Efrem

      Except it’s usually not the antivaxxers’ body, is it? It’s their children’s bodies. (No one’s forcing adults to be vaccinated.) This is just another example of how antivaxxers view their children as property or an extension of themselves.https://twitter.com/MsheArt2_Mia/status/1209981538391203841 …

      David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

      Mia Efrem @MsheArt2_Mia
      That's exactly what anyone is, who mandates vaccines. #Mybodymyright https://twitter.com/JeffShipley77/status/1208967752981131264 …
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      18 replies 27 retweets 170 likes
    2. Brenda Bell‏ @tmana 26 Dec 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @joltdude

      But the flip side implies a child's body is the property of the State. The bottom line is, kids belong to (or are wards of) their parents, who should be empowered to make ALL decisions on their behalf until they reach an age of reason. Whether out not we agree with them.

      5 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2019
      Replying to @tmana @joltdude

      “Belong to the parents”? Freudian slip there? No, parental rights are not absolute, nor should they be. Children are separate beings with rights of their own, among them the right to proper medical care.

      4 replies 11 retweets 79 likes
    4. Brenda Bell‏ @tmana 26 Dec 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @joltdude

      I agree that children are separate beings, but disagree that parental rights are a privilege to be granted by the State, and contingent upon following the State's rules for child rearing

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2019
      Replying to @tmana @joltdude

      So you’d be OK with parents not giving their child with type 1 diabetes insulin or treating their child with a treatable cancer with homeopathic quackery instead of chemo? You’d be fine letting these children die in the name of “parental rights.”

      2 replies 2 retweets 30 likes
    6. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 26 Dec 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @tmana @joltdude

      These are not hypothetical examples, either. I have dozens of actual cases that I’ve studied over the years. In some of them the child did end up dead.

      1 reply 1 retweet 24 likes
    7. Brenda Bell‏ @tmana 26 Dec 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @joltdude

      I might not LIKE it, but I consider that a parent's prerogative

      20 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Debunking Denialism‏ @debunkdenialism 31 Dec 2019
      Replying to @tmana @gorskon @joltdude

      Look at the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. It is the *child* that has rights, *not* the parents. A child has the right to be treated with real medicine for a real medical condition. Use the "child perspective", not "parental perspective". https://www.ohchr.org/en/professionalinterest/pages/crc.aspx …

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    9. Debunking Denialism‏ @debunkdenialism 31 Dec 2019
      Replying to @debunkdenialism @tmana and

      The U. S. is one of less than a dozen countries that have not ratified it. That speaks volumes to how little the U. S. system cares about children's rights and how important politicians think it is to coddle up to religious conservatives and others who are standing in the way.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 31 Dec 2019
      Replying to @debunkdenialism @tmana @joltdude

      It's not just parents in the US, though who think parental rights are absolute. I've encountered the same attitude writing about cases of medical neglect in Canada, Australia, and Europe. Just look at the case of Ezekiel Stephan.

      5:34 AM - 31 Dec 2019
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      • Jane Hull McIntire Eileen OS Aaron🌈🕎👬 Shelleybleu (((Mark))) Ann Heiser MD 💧 Ian "Department of Diseasology" 🍩 Musgrave (((Dorit Reiss))) Debunking Denialism
      2 replies 2 retweets 11 likes
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        2. Debunking Denialism‏ @debunkdenialism 31 Dec 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @tmana @joltdude

          Indeed. Many people in many countries could use a course on the rights of children (in addition to the science classes they slept through).

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        3. (((Mark)))‏ @MarkRap40434853 31 Dec 2019
          Replying to @debunkdenialism @gorskon and

          People who have not slept through their science classes. Have anti-vaccines view points. ‘Personal experiences’ ‘anecdotal evidence’ emotional reactions, conspiracy theories. Listening to antivax Doctors. Is what really drives the hard core

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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        1. Shelleybleu‏ @shelleybleu 31 Dec 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @doritmi and

          Ezekiel’s father should be in prison for life and his wife at least 25 years. My heads feels like it’s going to explode when I think of their lack of remorse and that they were in the right to do this to their child.

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