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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    1. Dr David Robert Grimes‏Verified account @drg1985 15 Nov 2019
      Replying to @briandavidearp

      Would really advise not sharing this. The author is, on vaccination, positively misleading & resorting to conspiratorial claims. @gorskon or @Rosewind2007 could elaborate

      4 replies 5 retweets 14 likes
    2. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp 15 Nov 2019
      Replying to @drg1985 @gorskon @Rosewind2007

      Thanks again for heads up - it looks like a real rabbit hole w/ HPV stuff, which I am not expert in. I shared the editorial not because of any particular perspective about the author, but because it expresses concerns re: conflicts of interest, etc., in science that are important

      1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
    3. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp 15 Nov 2019
      Replying to @briandavidearp @drg1985 and

      If I'd shared a piece saying "HPV vaccines cause serious neurological harm" I could understand ur advice not to share (not that I would share such a thing outside my expertise). But the editorial isn't about that & its content seems more or less on the mark as a general critique

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp 15 Nov 2019
      Replying to @briandavidearp @drg1985 and

      So is it implicit in your view, "One shouldn't share editorials with seemingly important content, concerns about real problems in science, insofar as the author has said some other stuff in a highly contentious area that some experts find very misleading" ...?

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    5. Rosewind‏ @Rosewind2007 15 Nov 2019
      Replying to @briandavidearp @drg1985 @gorskon

      Gøtzsche was ousted from Cochrane due to a pattern of seriously poor behaviour which goes back many years. His current behaviour, here on social media, is extremely poor. Perhaps check before you share?

      3 replies 2 retweets 3 likes
    6. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp 15 Nov 2019
      Replying to @Rosewind2007 @drg1985 @gorskon

      I don't know about ousting from Cochrane or what was behind that. I can take ur word about 'poor behavior' but it seems like I would have to do quite a lot of digging and investigation to formulate my own impression. Do you think the content of the editorial I shared is wrong?

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    7. Rosewind‏ @Rosewind2007 15 Nov 2019
      Replying to @briandavidearp @drg1985 @gorskon

      Brian, if you do a cursory check on Gøtzsche you’ll find information regarding him? Did you not even find the Go Fund Me?

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    8. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp 15 Nov 2019
      Replying to @Rosewind2007 @drg1985 @gorskon

      No, I had no knowledge of GoFundMe. I'm confused about ur perspective. If I read an article whose content seems sensible, your view is I should first investigate the author of the article to see if, in some other context, they have said things other experts object to?

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. Rosewind‏ @Rosewind2007 15 Nov 2019
      Replying to @briandavidearp @drg1985 @gorskon

      Gøtzsche is promoting his “Institute for Scientific Freedom”, did you not even do a basic check on what it is and why he formed it?

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Brian D. Earp‏ @briandavidearp 15 Nov 2019
      Replying to @Rosewind2007 @drg1985 @gorskon

      Here was my thought process: the BMJ is a pretty respectable source. Here is an article expressing values about science, and concerns about problems in science, that I think are good values and reasonable concerns. I will share this expression of values/concerns.

      3 replies 1 retweet 3 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 17 Nov 2019
      Replying to @briandavidearp @Rosewind2007 @drg1985

      There’s your mistake. BMJ has become rather dodgy in a number of ways, not the least of which that there’s an antivaxer (Peter Doshi) as one of its associate editors.

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        2. Daniel Probst‏ @skepteis 17 Nov 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @Rosewind2007 and

          This was quite obvious when I had a look. But how on earth does this quack end up being an associate editor?

          1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
        3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 17 Nov 2019
          Replying to @skepteis @Rosewind2007 and

          I wish I knew. He has no medical training. His training is, as I recall, as an anthropologist. Yet he pontificates on vaccines, in particular the flu vaccine, all the time, parroting antivaccine misinformation and distortions of science. He has no business as an editor of BMJ.

          2 replies 3 retweets 11 likes
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        2. Rosewind‏ @Rosewind2007 17 Nov 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @briandavidearp @drg1985

          Rosewind Retweeted Rosewind

          David, did you see Gøtzsche’s latest piece? He was very cross about Trish Greenhalgh’s paper regarding Cochrane and basically had a hissy fit. BMJ features in the references:https://twitter.com/Rosewind2007/status/1194268731637149696?s=20 …

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          Rosewind @Rosewind2007
          Replying to @PGtzsche1
          Going through the 34 references I note that 12/34 of them are authored wholly or in part by Peter Gøtzsche (PCG) 3 are books by PCG 5 are letters/statements etc by PCG on his personal blog (Deadly Medicine) 4 are published piece by PCG & others, all published in the BMJ
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        2. Brent Melville‏ @FreeBeeCee 17 Nov 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @Rosewind2007 and

          Stop shooting the messengers. The former editors of The Lancet and the NEJM highlighted the real problem - the crisis of corrupt medical research. Up to half of it could be "simply wrong" according to Richard Houghton.pic.twitter.com/zqSmsE3Eh3

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          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Graeme Leggett‏ @GrumFromNorwich 17 Nov 2019
          Replying to @FreeBeeCee @gorskon and

          I'd start looking at Keele if I were you.

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        2. Brent Melville‏ @FreeBeeCee 17 Nov 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @Rosewind2007 and

          And tell me Dr Gorski, why are there "antivaxers"? Do you think it's because of trauma, injury and death occuring post-vaccination?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Graeme Leggett‏ @GrumFromNorwich 17 Nov 2019
          Replying to @FreeBeeCee @gorskon and

          I'll go with 'ignorance', 'fear' and 'suspicion'

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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