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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 31 Oct 2019
      Replying to @DrJenGunter @iXeno and

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted David Gorski, MD, PhD

      Tellingly, this whole kerfuffle erupted after the 10' dunking oncologist in question posted a dismissive Tweet about dunking on alt med on Twitter. Someone responded with a link by me. And then…https://twitter.com/gorskon/status/1189729901903056896?s=21 …

      David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

      David Gorski, MD, PhDVerified account @gorskon
      Replying to @gorskon @BrowOfJustice and 2 others
      For the record, this is the Tweet that I responded to that set me off. Go one Tweet above it, and what do you see? A Tweet that links to a post by me discussing the pseudoscience of Goop. https://twitter.com/vprasadmdmph/status/1188943269410922497?s=21 …
      1 reply 0 retweets 9 likes
    2. Vamsi Aribindi‏ @aribindi 31 Oct 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @DrJenGunter and

      I get @VPrasadMDMPH's point, though I don't approve of his subsequent behavior. A lot of people are hurt by medicine's "accepted" practices. People given chemo, made bankrupt by treatments that we as doctors endorsed. Vioxx and Avandia killed 200,000 people.

      6 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 31 Oct 2019
      Replying to @aribindi @DrJenGunter and

      You're conflating things here. Patients go bankrupt from expensive cancer treatment, whether it's based on strong or weak evidence, because they don't have adequate heal;th insurance, which is a societal problem in the only industrialized country w/o universal health insurance.

      1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
    4. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 31 Oct 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @aribindi and

      As for our 10’ dunking oncologist's original point, no skeptic denies that there are medical practices that can cause harm and aren't supported by sufficiently strong evidence, at least none I've ever encountered in my nearly two decades of doing this.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    5. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 31 Oct 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @aribindi and

      It's also not as though skeptics haven't been discussing the relative values of working on conventional medical practices with insufficit evidence versus alternative medicine quackery. There's a serious, thoughtful discussion to be had there, one that's been going on a long time.

      2 replies 1 retweet 10 likes
    6. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 31 Oct 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @aribindi and

      Moreover, skeptics generally welcome newcomers from different backgrounds who want to join the discussion, even if it's on the side that we should spend more time on pharma/harmful medical practices than CAM/quackery/antivax.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    7. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 31 Oct 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @aribindi and

      Again, there's a serious and thoughtful discussion to be had there. It's one I've taken part in many times.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 31 Oct 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @aribindi and

      However, when someone condescendingly tells us that what we do is easy and worthless while pointedly refusing to construct a coherent argument for why they think that other than,“Taking on pharma is hard; what you do is trivially easy," well, we're human too. We won’t react well.

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    9. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 31 Oct 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @aribindi and

      Maybe they're right. Maybe what they do is harder. It's possible .However, just saying it doesn't make it so. They have to give us something resembling evidence and a coherent argument in order to get us to consider their viewpoint.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    10. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 31 Oct 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @aribindi and

      It's even more problematic when, after being asked to do just that, to tell us what they think we're doing wrong and why and provide evidence they just keep repeating the same condescension. That's not constructive criticism. That's not helpful. That's just trolling.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 31 Oct 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @aribindi and

      Again, deconstructing alt med involves the same sorts of knowledge and skills that pharma watchdogs use: Clinical trial design and statistics, knowledge of relevant science, knowledge of how clinical trial results are spun, etc., plus an additional skill, science communication.

      4:26 PM - 31 Oct 2019
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        2. Vamsi Aribindi‏ @aribindi 31 Oct 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @DrJenGunter and

          And I wouldn't agree that what you're doing is easy Dr. Gorski- dealing with anti-vaxx harassment 24/7 as you so bravely have would be taxing on anyone. Its just that I can see Dr. Prasad's frustration that there aren't more people joining him in his equally worthy fight.

          3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. Vamsi Aribindi‏ @aribindi 31 Oct 2019
          Replying to @aribindi @gorskon and

          Albeit, he expressed that frustration in a completely inappropriate manner and then doubled down on it.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
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