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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 19 Oct 2019

    David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Tiffany M

    Stop right there. The premise is NOT "fairly accurate." It's wrong. MORTALITY from some vaccine-preventable diseases was on the decline before the vaccines for those diseases were introduced (which was due to better medical care and not natural immunity"), but INCIDENCE was not.https://twitter.com/LiveIdiotFree/status/1184901899754958848 …

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    Tiffany M @LiveIdiotFree
    I have a question for all of the scientists and doctors on here. I think it's fairly accurate to say that most of the common vaccines were introduced when certain diseases like measles were on a downward progression due to natural immunity...now that decades have passed...
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      1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 19 Oct 2019

        David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Tiffany M

        The answer to your question, premised on erroneous information and understanding is that we're much better off vaccinated. "Natural immunity" is not something to be relied on to stop outbreaks.https://twitter.com/livevaxfree/status/1184902397715337216?s=21 …

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        Tiffany M @LiveIdiotFree
        Generations are now only living w vaccines induced immunity that we know wanes over time. So what happens if we do have an outbreak, a real one and is the big push to vaccinate in order to cover this mistake? I think there could be a catastrophic pandemic that ppl don't realize.
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      1. Otter, M.D.‏ @OtterMD37 19 Oct 2019
        Replying to @gorskon

        Thanks to you and all #medtwitter people who patiently continue to provide actual information about vaccines.

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      2. Terry Simpson‏ @terrysimpson 19 Oct 2019
        Replying to @gorskon

        My ancestors, Alaska Natives, were almost wiped out from diseases that we now have vaccinations for. Which may be why our hospital is the first to require mandatory vaccination of all workers - a unanimous vote by our board who remember those dark days before vaccines

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      3. critter8875‏ @critter8875 19 Oct 2019
        Replying to @terrysimpson @gorskon

        Something similar occurred in Hawaii.

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      1. DD‏ @Double_D_RN 19 Oct 2019
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      2. Tiffany M‏ @LiveIdiotFree 19 Oct 2019
        Replying to @gorskon

        Incidents were also down. Not just mortality. Come on now...

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      3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 19 Oct 2019
        Replying to @LiveIdiotFree

        This wasn't true for measles, certainly. Its incidence stayed roughly the same, with a fairly large year-to-year, fluctuation, until the vaccine Wed introduced. Ditto polio and Hib (although polio's yearly fluctuations in incidence were huge).https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/vaccines-didnt-save-us-intellectual-dishonesty-at-its-most-naked/ …

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      2. KP‏ @pollock_dr 19 Oct 2019

        What’s the evidence for waning immunity to the measles and rubella component of MMR? Agree for mumps component but don’t think there’s strong evidence for former.

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      2. Grampa Morris‏ @GrampaMorris1 19 Oct 2019
        Replying to @gorskon @KindrachukJason

        Diphtheria is a disease that is rare now, but killed millions in the past. Is the rate decrease in the disease due to natural immunity or the vaccine? My guess is that it's the vaccine.

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      3. Jason Kindrachuk, PhD‏Verified account @KindrachukJason 19 Oct 2019
        Replying to @GrampaMorris1 @gorskon

        WHO expanded the global vaccination program in 1974 so if one accounts for the time required for full implementation of the program, vaccination would account for post-1980 decrease, IMO

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