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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    1. Richard M. Carpiano, PhD, MPH‏ @RMCarpiano 22 Sep 2019

      Anyone else receive such a reply after use of anti-vaxxer to describe protesters...? Seems like latest addition to Holocaust, civil rights, other injustice symbolism/imagery appropropriation. A bit ironic given what we've seen them do to MDs, statehouse, say online. @DrPanMDpic.twitter.com/pX4y4squLC

      9 replies 7 retweets 27 likes
    2. Stephanie McGann Jantzen‏ @stephjantzen 22 Sep 2019
      Replying to @RMCarpiano @DrPanMD

      Those who deem themselves “vaccine injured”: “my arm was sore” or, as in the flu vaccine, “my muscle hurt”. That’s not injury, Karen. We just prevented you from getting sick or getting dead. The manager doesn’t want to talk to you. #VaccinesWork

      3 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. Richard M. Carpiano, PhD, MPH‏ @RMCarpiano 22 Sep 2019
      Replying to @stephjantzen @DrPanMD

      So much of the activist rhetoric is about choice/freedom (e.g., the 3 women at the center of the protests), not injury--as this piece nicely shows...https://time.com/5606250/measles-cases-rise-fighting-vaccines/ …

      1 reply 2 retweets 5 likes
    4. Stephanie McGann Jantzen‏ @stephjantzen 22 Sep 2019
      Replying to @RMCarpiano @DrPanMD

      Yes, I know...we all need to stand firmly for public health and science. And history: vaccines are so effective they have been their own worst enemy. As I say this I can’t not be in disbelief. Like we are arguing facts.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    5. Plum Remson  🙂 😄 🙂‏ @PlumRemson 23 Sep 2019
      Replying to @stephjantzen @RMCarpiano @DrPanMD

      You are VP of Perry Communications Group. Your client list is packed full of health industry trade groups. Your statement is a non-scientific generalization about a suite of sold/administered-for-profit, liability-free products known to cause injury/death in susceptible.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Stephanie McGann Jantzen‏ @stephjantzen 23 Sep 2019
      Replying to @PlumRemson @RMCarpiano @DrPanMD

      Nope. I’m mom to a boy who had a legitimate medical exemption for eight years. The moment I could begin vaccinating him I felt so grateful. He’s now healthy and strong. No measles or mumps for this kid🙌🏼

      1 reply 0 retweets 8 likes
    7. Plum Remson  🙂 😄 🙂‏ @PlumRemson 23 Sep 2019
      Replying to @stephjantzen @RMCarpiano @DrPanMD

      Being the mom to that boy, does not erase the fact that you are also the VP of Perry Communications which has the described clients: https://perrycom.com/clients 

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Plum Remson  🙂 😄 🙂‏ @PlumRemson 23 Sep 2019
      Replying to @PlumRemson @stephjantzen and

      You are indeed the VP. https://perrycom.com/about/stephanie-mcgann-jantzen-vice-president …

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Stephanie McGann Jantzen‏ @stephjantzen 23 Sep 2019
      Replying to @PlumRemson @RMCarpiano @DrPanMD

      They haven’t pulled it down from their website yet. Yes I was, unapologetically, by the way. The work PCG does in patient advocacy is incredible. How does this relate to saving lives through Immunization?

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 23 Sep 2019
      Replying to @stephjantzen @PlumRemson and

      Pharma shill gambit. It's all antivaxers have, ad hominem and poisoning the well. It's almost always their go-to move when they don't even have pseudoscientific arguments any more, as it's part of their central conspiracy theory.

      7:49 AM - 23 Sep 2019
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        2. Plum Remson  🙂 😄 🙂‏ @PlumRemson 23 Sep 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @stephjantzen and

          Asking about a conflict of interest is not a "shill gambit". You are indulging in ad hominem in the very tweet in which your are ascribing it to others. Vaccine-risk-aware consumer advocates cite science everyday in discussing vaccine injury risk.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31205057?fbclid=IwAR0OcMjK18q99XM5RFTISfRcLyczMgXyTQJOjYh1a1H4BYJYI-IzTCGBxEQ …

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        3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 23 Sep 2019
          Replying to @PlumRemson @stephjantzen and

          "...a definitive relationship between the vaccine and death could not be identified. Histopathological examinations revealed pneumonia and upper respiratory infection as contributing to death in their cases." That paper does not show what you think it does.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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        1. Stephanie McGann Jantzen‏ @stephjantzen 23 Sep 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @PlumRemson and

          And I deeply appreciate *sarcasm* being attacked for being grateful my son could be protected against diseases.pic.twitter.com/QDNz2saeCf

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