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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 14 Sep 2019

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    Answering the "sanitation, not vaccines, saved us" gambit. It's where antivaxers claim that because mortality from various infectious diseases were falling before the vaccines for those diseases were introduced that must mean that the vaccines didn't eradicate those diseases.https://twitter.com/gorskon/status/1172988980423299072 …

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    David Gorski, MD, PhDVerified account @gorskon
    Conflating mortality with incidence to "prove" that "vaccines didn't save us" is intellectually dishonest. Yes, mortality was declining before the introduction of various vaccines. Incidence, however, was not and didn't decline to near zero until AFTER the vaccine was introduced.
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      1. Bob Blaskiewicz‏ @rjblaskiewicz 14 Sep 2019
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        Rates of miasma reduction have never been higher, Gorski.

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      1. SoCoGal  🌊.  🇺🇸  🌊‏ @SoCoGal1395 14 Sep 2019
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        It’s a stupid argument. Doesn’t explain airborne diseases like measles. And is not argued by anyone who has been on a commercial airplane in the last 5 years!

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      1. Audry T‏ @AudryT 14 Sep 2019
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        So they think modern countries or regions that don't have adequate access to vaccines and suffer as a result are ... unsanitary? Dirty? There's a layer of bigotry in this argument that is pretty damned offensive and xenophobic when you scratch the surface.

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      1. Dr KayRay‏ @ktibus 14 Sep 2019
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        It's a really silly argument. Anyone advancing it will also need to explain why diseases disappeared in order of the introduction of each vaccine, and in some cases only the strains targeted by those vaccines.

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      1.  💉 Vaccinated Reality  💉‏ @RealPixelated 14 Sep 2019
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        I saw someone a few days ago quoting a newspaper article from 1905 where a doctor claimed cancer was virtually unheard of before vaccines.

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      1. Eleanor‏ @edabny62 14 Sep 2019
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        Ok, I'm no epidemiologist, but IF it was sanitation that eradicated these diseases, why haven't measles and chicken pox and pneumococcal infections etc. been eradicated? We have proper sanitation... I can't even with their "logic". Determined ignorance is stupidity, IMO.

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      1. Rick K‏ @RickK101 15 Sep 2019
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        In all those charts showing the decline of a disease after the introduction of the vaccine, not one claims responsibility for what happened before it was introduced. This is an elaborate straw man argument.https://legacy.theskepticsguide.org/resources/logical-fallacies …

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