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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Ken Jaques  🇨🇦  ❤️‏ @kenjaques 13 Jul 2019
      Replying to @tylerblack32 @gorskon

      Umm. I think the point was that Gorski's nonsense is probably doing more harm than good. Whether @mloxton "sciences" or not may make for a good deflection, but does not address the point.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Tyler Black, MD‏ @tylerblack32 13 Jul 2019
      Replying to @kenjaques @gorskon @mloxton

      Oh you again. No, the problem is that using a poor method to arrive at a number doesn't mean it's a good, or even a usable number. If I estimated my weight by picking my nose because I didn't have a scale, and I said "well it's the only number we have so I'll use it for now"...

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    3. Ken Jaques  🇨🇦  ❤️‏ @kenjaques 13 Jul 2019
      Replying to @tylerblack32 @gorskon @mloxton

      Nice opening. Nice to see you too. Regarding your deflection, I respect your point. The problem however, is that Gorski's belligerence does more harm than good. It seems to me that that was the point of the tweet.

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    4. Tyler Black, MD‏ @tylerblack32 13 Jul 2019
      Replying to @kenjaques @gorskon @mloxton

      That's an opinion I disagree with. @gorkson, @SBMPediatrics , @stevennovella , @DrJenGunter are at the forefront of combating ignorance and pseudoscience in medicine. Psuedoscience, quackery, and snake oil salespeople harm, injure , and need to be called out aggressively.

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    5. Ken Jaques  🇨🇦  ❤️‏ @kenjaques 13 Jul 2019
      Replying to @tylerblack32 @gorskon and

      Should stuff that is truly quackery and snake oil be called out? Yes. If you think belligerence is required in order to do so, let's just agree that we're on a different page.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Tyler Black, MD‏ @tylerblack32 13 Jul 2019
      Replying to @kenjaques @gorskon and

      Everyone's different. I'm glad to have them fighting this fight against the intrusion of pseudoscience into medicine. Like any team, teammates have different personalities! You'd probably like @stevennovella more. Recommend @SkepticsGuide podcast! It'd be really good for you.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    7. Ken Jaques  🇨🇦  ❤️‏ @kenjaques 13 Jul 2019
      Replying to @tylerblack32 @gorskon and

      Like I said, some of them are doing a good job. Some of them could be valuable additions to the "solution team". Not sure if they'd want to make that shift, they seem pretty entrenched on the debunking side. Will watch for @stevennovella. Will also see what @SkepticsGuide is.

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    8. Tyler Black, MD‏ @tylerblack32 13 Jul 2019
      Replying to @kenjaques @gorskon and

      Shit need debunking, yo. But yes, debunking only one aspect of combatting stuff like TCM, homeopathy, acupuncture, chiropractic, reiki, naturopathy, etc. Hope you like @SkepticsGuide! My favourite science based podcast. And you can read @stevennovella @https://theness.com/neurologicablog/ …

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    9. Ken Jaques  🇨🇦  ❤️‏ @kenjaques 13 Jul 2019
      Replying to @tylerblack32 @gorskon and

      Hopefully it's not more of the same "baby with the bathwater" stuff that is so prevalent with many of these debunkers. You know -- yo, we don't have solutions but this sounds like something we saw before so it must be bad. Quackery! Pseudoscience! You know the drill 😉

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    10. Tyler Black, MD‏ @tylerblack32 13 Jul 2019
      Replying to @kenjaques @gorskon and

      Science and the scientific process provides the mechanism to discover the solutions, when we don't have them. Quackery and pseudoscience are not defined by "we don't know, so let's call it that". TCM, Reiki, Homeopathy, etc They are quackery due to implausibility and evidence.

      4 replies 1 retweet 17 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 13 Jul 2019
      Replying to @tylerblack32 @kenjaques and

      Indeed they are. Homeopathy violates multiple laws of physics. Reiki relies on a mystical nonexistent entity known as the universal source. TCM is based on a mystical prescientific understanding of human biology and disease. THAT's why they're quackery.

      2:42 PM - 13 Jul 2019
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        2. Laura Hagan‏ @hagan_laura 13 Jul 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @tylerblack32 and

          Totally. But acupuncture freaks me out because it appears to have benefits to horses and dogs, neither of which should experience the placebo effect. Help me debunk it!

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        3. Tyler Black, MD‏ @tylerblack32 13 Jul 2019
          Replying to @hagan_laura @gorskon and

          It doesn't. Any effect is non specific. Animals don't have chi. Meridian points don't matter. (Article is on homeopathy, but it addresses all of the issues) https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/should-we-ban-homeopathy-for-animals/ …

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