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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Matthew Loxton‏ @mloxton 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @gorskon

      Nevermind

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    2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @mloxton

      Hey, it's not my issue if you find estimates of deaths due to preventable medical error as high as 60% of all inpatient deaths or almost 20% of all deaths to be plausible.😏

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    3. Matthew Loxton‏ @mloxton 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @gorskon

      Hey, it's not my issue if you throw swearwords around in lieu of rational argument, or accuse people of innumeracy instead of offering actual research. As i said, nevermind

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @mloxton

      Hey, it's not my issue if "bullshit" is the single best word to describe estimates of 250-440K deaths due to medical error per year. 😏https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/are-medical-errors-really-the-third-most-common-cause-of-death-in-the-u-s/ …

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    5. Matthew Loxton‏ @mloxton 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @gorskon

      Publish a paper with better validity and reliability then

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    6. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @mloxton

      Do you really believe that 60% of all inpatient deaths are due to medical error? Yes or no?

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    7. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @mloxton

      Some numbers are so utterly ridiculous that one can reject them on plausibility alone. If 60% of inpatient deaths really are due to medical error, then Gary Null is right and we should just hang it up and let the quacks take over. Right, @MarkHoofnagle?

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    8. Matthew Loxton‏ @mloxton 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @MarkHoofnagle

      Nonsense. In fact, nonsense on rickety stilts

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    9. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @mloxton @MarkHoofnagle

      You seem to be saying plausibility doesn’t matter? I guess I can start accepting research by homeopaths as believable then!

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    10. Matthew Loxton‏ @mloxton 12 Jul 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @MarkHoofnagle

      Plausibility as the product of personal opinion doesn't work as the replacement of a published paper in a peer-reviewed journal. Your personal opinion that the upper limit of a range offered by a paper, remains just your personal opinion. Your opinion isn't data

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 12 Jul 2019
      Replying to @mloxton @MarkHoofnagle

      Plausibility can be abused in that way, but it's not "just a product of personal opinion." I'll give you an example: Homeopathy. Is it just a "product of personal opinion" to say that homeopathy's precepts violate several laws of physics and chemistry, making it impossible? No!

      6:28 AM - 12 Jul 2019
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        2. Matthew Loxton‏ @mloxton 12 Jul 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @MarkHoofnagle

          Well breaking natural laws is a give-away. Homeopathy isn't a crock because of my strong feelings of it's implausibility, but because it contradicts natural laws, and has been shown to be a crock experimentally in published papers

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        3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 12 Jul 2019
          Replying to @mloxton @MarkHoofnagle

          OK, we're getting there. You admit the concept of plausibility can be enough. Now tell me how it's plausible that as many as 60% of all inpatient deaths every year are due to medical error. Do you really believe that? Do you believe it's 30% (250K)?

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