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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019

      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted chadi nabhan MD, MBA, FACP

      Yes! Once again, medical errors are NOT the third leading cause of death in the US. They're not even close. That's not to say that we shouldn't be working to reduce them, but massively inflating the number helps no one.https://twitter.com/chadinabhan/status/1149286844162543617 …

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      chadi nabhan MD, MBA, FACPVerified account @chadinabhan
      You keep hearing exaggerated numbers about #medicalerrors as 3rd cause of PT death in the US. Inflated & inaccurate. @BenMazer and I try to explain it all in this paper. The hype over medical errors needs to end. Take some time and read our opinion. https://link.springer.com/epdf/10.1007/s11606-019-05156-7?author_access_token=JDSjULvfAts70zUo03n8Mfe4RwlQNchNByi7wbcMAY5MxRyVLtxqzixLCnZR4KqJh-cJBgEHgUANnlXqkpQh0gcQy2Jy1zowkfbFnimslgcxd7m570hwLSSC2as_QSHH1bIZ1B6MzQJSO0gGDs6ukA%3D%3D … pic.twitter.com/y2LhTNzVJu
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    2. Matthew Loxton‏ @mloxton 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @gorskon

      yeah, but no. Until someone improves on those two numbers by doing a more rigorous study, it is just cherry -picking to deny the numbers.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @mloxton

      Bullshit. Only innumeracy allows those ridiculous numbers to persist.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    4. Matthew Loxton‏ @mloxton 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @gorskon

      Nevermind

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    5. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @mloxton

      Hey, it's not my issue if you find estimates of deaths due to preventable medical error as high as 60% of all inpatient deaths or almost 20% of all deaths to be plausible.😏

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    6. Matthew Loxton‏ @mloxton 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @gorskon

      Hey, it's not my issue if you throw swearwords around in lieu of rational argument, or accuse people of innumeracy instead of offering actual research. As i said, nevermind

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @mloxton

      Hey, it's not my issue if "bullshit" is the single best word to describe estimates of 250-440K deaths due to medical error per year. 😏https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/are-medical-errors-really-the-third-most-common-cause-of-death-in-the-u-s/ …

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    8. Matthew Loxton‏ @mloxton 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @gorskon

      Publish a paper with better validity and reliability then

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019
      Replying to @mloxton

      Do you really believe that 60% of all inpatient deaths are due to medical error? Yes or no?

      4:15 PM - 11 Jul 2019
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        2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @mloxton

          Some numbers are so utterly ridiculous that one can reject them on plausibility alone. If 60% of inpatient deaths really are due to medical error, then Gary Null is right and we should just hang it up and let the quacks take over. Right, @MarkHoofnagle?

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        1. Dr David P‏ @Pewnack 11 Jul 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @mloxton

          If it were the US I would assume 60% of patient deaths (not inpatient) were due to not being able to afford to become inpatients.

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        1. Matthew Loxton‏ @mloxton 11 Jul 2019
          Replying to @gorskon

          No, I don't. But then I don't have emotional outbursts about "bullshit" and make vapid statements "inumeracy" either

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