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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019

    David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted chadi nabhan MD, MBA, FACP

    Yes! Once again, medical errors are NOT the third leading cause of death in the US. They're not even close. That's not to say that we shouldn't be working to reduce them, but massively inflating the number helps no one.https://twitter.com/chadinabhan/status/1149286844162543617 …

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    chadi nabhan MD, MBA, FACPVerified account @chadinabhan
    You keep hearing exaggerated numbers about #medicalerrors as 3rd cause of PT death in the US. Inflated & inaccurate. @BenMazer and I try to explain it all in this paper. The hype over medical errors needs to end. Take some time and read our opinion. https://link.springer.com/epdf/10.1007/s11606-019-05156-7?author_access_token=JDSjULvfAts70zUo03n8Mfe4RwlQNchNByi7wbcMAY5MxRyVLtxqzixLCnZR4KqJh-cJBgEHgUANnlXqkpQh0gcQy2Jy1zowkfbFnimslgcxd7m570hwLSSC2as_QSHH1bIZ1B6MzQJSO0gGDs6ukA%3D%3D … pic.twitter.com/y2LhTNzVJu
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      1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019

        All inflating the number of deaths due to medical error to be between 30-60% of all hospital deaths (I'm not making this up) does is to give quacks a talking point and to hamper the efforts of those who are actually trying to do something to reduce the number of medical errors.

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      2. Matthew Loxton‏ @mloxton 11 Jul 2019
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        yeah, but no. Until someone improves on those two numbers by doing a more rigorous study, it is just cherry -picking to deny the numbers.

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      3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 11 Jul 2019
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        Bullshit. Only innumeracy allows those ridiculous numbers to persist.

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      1. Sean Fleming‏ @Dranelik 11 Jul 2019
        Replying to @gorskon @CiaranORiain

        Surely mistakes are only part of the story. Overmedicine is the more significant driver of preventible morbidity.

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      2. Rod Hayward‏ @ProfHayward 12 Jul 2019
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        Those numbers are pure math & logic errors. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1955272/ …https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11466119 

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      3. Rod Hayward‏ @ProfHayward 12 Jul 2019
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        For those not interested in reading detailed methodological papers, the analogy below using Bayes Theorem tells you 90% of what you need to know (ie, when reliability is suboptimal, priors are very important).pic.twitter.com/kQCv5zpAjM

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      1. Don't mind me, just forcing a poop‏ @don_peasant 12 Jul 2019
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        Working on a project related to this. Is there any retrospective on medical error rates in different forms of healthcare system? E.g. market based systems vs command based

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      1. Shalena Gallagher Garza MD, (sabotaged by liars )‏ @shalenamd 13 Jul 2019
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        Oh now I see. Wow. Very emotional here. Im so sad. Heartbreaking...whatever the numbers are extimated to be, can we agree that medical board disciplinary actions are not corrolated with improved public safety? #abolishmedicalboards

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