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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 14 Jun 2019

      Can we stop talking about Biel altogether? Don’t tweet. Don’t RT. Don’t give the story oxygen. That’s a certain kind of well-meaning but inadvertent complicity, not unlike journos’ mistakes in overcovering Wakefield in mid 2000s. It’s the Barbra Streisand effect. Just ignore it.

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    2. Dr. Tara C. Smith‏Verified account @aetiology 14 Jun 2019
      Replying to @tarahaelle

      Disagree it's the same as Wakefield. The mistake there was giving his ideas significant weight & gravitas. Every Biel piece I've seen has been critical.

      5 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
    3. Greg Dworkin‏Verified account @DemFromCT 14 Jun 2019
      Replying to @aetiology @tarahaelle

      It forces her to clarify. Today was forced to take down dumb headline. that’s s all good

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    4. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 14 Jun 2019
      Replying to @DemFromCT @aetiology

      Criticizing the news outlets is good. Constantly tweeting about what she actually said and I’m trying to debunk it is not.

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    5. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 14 Jun 2019
      Replying to @tarahaelle @DemFromCT @aetiology

      I’m not criticizing anyone in particular or saying no one can tweet anything abt Biel. I am speaking to the scale & number of tweets I‘m seeing & content of many of them. This issue can be tweeted abt w/o reinforcing her influence. But I’m seeing more than that & it’s unhelpful.

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 14 Jun 2019
      Replying to @tarahaelle @DemFromCT @aetiology

      Gotta be honest here. I'm confused. Don't Tweet about her but it's OK to Tweet about her? I'm getting mixed messages here. TBH, I'm way more concerned about news stories with false balance failing to portray her and RFK Jr. as the antivax cranks they are than Twitter or blogs.

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        2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 14 Jun 2019
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          Also, I make no apologies for my post about Biel today. People forget, for instance, just HOW antivax RFK Jr. is and how antivax Biel must be if she's willing to join forces with him.https://respectfulinsolence.com/2019/06/14/jessica-biel-latest-celebrity-antivaxer/ …

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        3. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 14 Jun 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @DemFromCT @aetiology

          Haven’t had time to read this & wasn’t implying criticism of just anything at all written abt her. I’m pretty confident anything you’ve written has no false balance & keeps focus where it needs to be. Like I said, my initial tweets weren’t directed at anyone specific.

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        1. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 14 Jun 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @DemFromCT @aetiology

          Absolutely agree re media stories, which are the biggest prob. And I apologize. I’m not being clear bc of Twitter char limits & my failure to plan out what I was trying to say. A planned thread would have been better.

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        1. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 14 Jun 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @DemFromCT @aetiology

          There are different types of tweets. Ones criticizing media coverage, ones criticizing Biel, ones speaking generally about it, ones simply retweeting media stories with little or no comment, etc

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        1. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 14 Jun 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @DemFromCT @aetiology

          The ones directly criticizing media stories are helpful. The ones criticizing coverage and attention of her are helpful. The ones urging ignoring her are helpful (if not overdone).

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        1. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 14 Jun 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @DemFromCT @aetiology

          But because of the composition of my followed accounts, I’m seeing an aggregate of these various kinds of tweets, and I see a lot that are NOT helpful.

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        1. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 14 Jun 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @DemFromCT @aetiology

          Just tweeting about what she’s said to knock it down/debunk isn’t necessarily helpful bc it risks increasing her prominence & influence. The ones just RTing media stories — again and again — aren’t helpful. Again, Barbra Streisand-ish. (Not quite the same phenomenon but similar)

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        2. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 14 Jun 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @DemFromCT @aetiology

          Blogging about or tweeting about RFK jr? ABSOLUTELY helpful and important. He already has huge clout by name, history, profession, etc, and nothing can raise his prominence more, so knocking him down every chance possible & reminding ppl he’s a crank can’t be done enough.

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        3. Greg Dworkin‏Verified account @DemFromCT 14 Jun 2019
          Replying to @tarahaelle @gorskon @aetiology

          Thanks for the clarification

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        2. Tara Haelle‏Verified account @tarahaelle 14 Jun 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @DemFromCT @aetiology

          There’s a lot of nuance in what I’m trying to explain, and it’s based on nuance discovered in communication research. The same tweet that can be helpful could have two words changed and become counterproductive—even if both are pro-vax.

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        3. Richard M. Carpiano, PhD, MPH‏ @RMCarpiano 14 Jun 2019
          Replying to @tarahaelle @gorskon and

          Good pts. Can you post a link about this in general, so ppl can see how they can do it better wrt to wording for future--i.e. not simply for this story?

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