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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 2 Jun 2019
      Replying to @bruceekirk @EdB_Ohio @MicrobiomDigest

      You beat me to it. Also, no one—and I mean NO ONE—claims that passing peer review represents "automatic validation of an idea."

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
    2. William Belcher‏ @EdB_Ohio 2 Jun 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @bruceekirk @MicrobiomDigest

      Beat you to what? Why do you specifically ask for peer reviewed literature?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. PZ Myers  🕷‏ @pzmyers 2 Jun 2019
      Replying to @EdB_Ohio @gorskon and

      I also ask that my food be properly inspected and cooked. That doesn't guarantee that it will be good. It's a *minimal* standard.

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    4. William Belcher‏ @EdB_Ohio 2 Jun 2019
      Replying to @pzmyers @gorskon and

      Better not eat at your relatives' homes over the holidays unless you get their kitchens and food preparation methods tested. *Minimal* standard and all. It's only fair to assume the food is bad without having a stamp of approval.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Bruce Kirkpatrick‏ @bruceekirk 2 Jun 2019
      Replying to @EdB_Ohio @pzmyers and

      agreed, that minimum standard is executed by people selected to do it, like servers or cooks at a restaurant, not your random family members. analogy applies well to why you shouldn’t take Aunt Flo’s medical advice at face value unless she’s also a professional in that field

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. William Belcher‏ @EdB_Ohio 2 Jun 2019
      Replying to @bruceekirk @pzmyers and

      But we should trust her food without peer review?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Bruce Kirkpatrick‏ @bruceekirk 2 Jun 2019
      Replying to @EdB_Ohio @pzmyers and

      depends on the “impact” of her food. is it going to be consumed by the public (as with published research)? if so, absolutely yes. this is the reason we have food inspectors and restaurants are assigned grades. it’s almost like a peer review process for food actually exists!

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. William Belcher‏ @EdB_Ohio 2 Jun 2019
      Replying to @bruceekirk @pzmyers and

      LOL now it's only if consumed by the public!

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Bruce Kirkpatrick‏ @bruceekirk 2 Jun 2019
      Replying to @EdB_Ohio @pzmyers and

      i mean, America is generally pretty big on private freedoms. you can eat all kinds of nasty stuff at home, but if you try to do that in a restaurant, they’ll ask you to leave. we’re debating merits of peer review in the publication process, which is by definition for the public

      3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. William Belcher‏ @EdB_Ohio 2 Jun 2019
      Replying to @bruceekirk @pzmyers and

      I am NOT debating the merits of peer review. I am debating the tactic of citing peer review as if it makes an idea above reproach and also that lack of such invalidates an idea.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 2 Jun 2019
      Replying to @EdB_Ohio @bruceekirk and

      Ah, so you're debating against a straw man. No one, least of all myself argues that passing peer review "makes an idea above reproach" or that "lack of peer review invalidates an idea."

      7:46 AM - 2 Jun 2019
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