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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 20 Mar 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @jorient @DrLindaMD

      It can't be that Dr. Orient doesn't consider any vaccine to be safe and effective (because she's an antivaxer), could it? Perish the thought! 🤦‍♂️

      2 replies 1 retweet 17 likes
    2. Linda Girgis MD‏Verified account @DrLindaMD 20 Mar 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @jorient

      Great questions! If any antivaxxer has any real science, I am willing to listen to it. But, there is none.

      1 reply 1 retweet 13 likes
    3. Jane Orient, MD‏ @jorient 20 Mar 2019
      Replying to @DrLindaMD @gorskon

      There is plenty of evidence of vaccine adverse effects. Isn't that real science? And does absence of evidence from safety trials that have not been done= evidence of absence--firm enough to justify suspension of need for consent? The damaged kids are real.

      7 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    4. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @jorient @DrLindaMD

      What would be these "safety trials" that haven't been done?

      1 reply 2 retweets 7 likes
    5. Jane Orient, MD‏ @jorient 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @DrLindaMD

      Again, long-term randomized prospective trials with an unvaccinated control group. The recent touted Danish trial doesn't meet those criteria. CDC stonewalled FOIA requests for safety trials on hep b in newborns

      4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @jorient @DrLindaMD

      Such a trial design would be breathtakingly unethical, because leaving a control group unvaccinated and therefore vulnerable to deadly vaccine-preventable diseases would massively violate the Nuremberg Code and the Declaration of Helsinki.

      3 replies 1 retweet 24 likes
    7. Jane Orient, MD‏ @jorient 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @DrLindaMD

      So mass immunization without adequate safety testing is ok? And the informed consent in Nuremberg code does not apply to vaccines? And measles, mumps, and chickenpox are "deadly diseases"?

      12 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @jorient @DrLindaMD

      Epidemiological studies ARE adequate safety testing once the original RCTs for each new vaccine are completed, particularly when they involve millions of subjects.

      3 replies 0 retweets 29 likes
    9. Linda Girgis MD‏Verified account @DrLindaMD 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @jorient

      Millions of subjects across multiple populations over multiple continents over decades of data.....

      2 replies 0 retweets 8 likes
    10. Sartorius Medicus‏ @SartoriusMD 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @DrLindaMD @gorskon @jorient

      These people have absolutely no clue as to how many tens of millions of unvaccinated kids we would need to follow for decades in order to squeeze out a statistically significant difference, given the extremely low pre-test probability for the vaccine “injuries” they’re claiming.

      1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 21 Mar 2019
      Replying to @SartoriusMD @DrLindaMD @jorient

      Don't try to explain pre-test probability and statistical power to Dr. Orient. Her head might explode.

      3:45 PM - 21 Mar 2019
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