Advocate all you want for vaccines. But patients still have the right to choose. And the right to hear those who disagree that all vaccines are effective and safe enough to force on people. Using force discredits the case.https://twitter.com/DrLindaMD/status/1108206936590290945 …
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Of course, let me just let
@DrLindaMD know that I've been trying to get a simple answer to a simple question from Dr. Orient for days. The question? Which childhood vaccines does she consider safe and effective and why? She's been dodging the question with rants about freedom.2 replies 5 retweets 57 likes -
It can't be that Dr. Orient doesn't consider any vaccine to be safe and effective (because she's an antivaxer), could it? Perish the thought!
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Great questions! If any antivaxxer has any real science, I am willing to listen to it. But, there is none.
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There is plenty of evidence of vaccine adverse effects. Isn't that real science? And does absence of evidence from safety trials that have not been done= evidence of absence--firm enough to justify suspension of need for consent? The damaged kids are real.
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Unless you compare vaccine adverse events to disease adverse events, this is a pointless question.
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REAL events compare (N who get disease now x %adverse events) vs (N who get vaccine x %adverse events). Scaremongering uses historical or 3rd world disease incidence & outcome and denies vaccine risks
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Again, where is your data? Where are all those you claim are vaccine "damaged"? Surely some group must be monitoring and be collecting actual data. Unless it doesn't exist. No one is scaremongering. We are talking science. You have not presented any.
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VAERS collects--maybe 10%, or 1% of suspected reactions. Where are publications of CDC investigations that follow-up?
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This is why there are 3 active surveillance systems in the US that monitor vaccine safety and don't depend on voluntary reporting. VAERS was always meant to function more as a "canary in the coal mine" than as an accurate method of estimating adverse event rates from vsccines.
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I bet Dr. Orient can't name the three active surveillance systems monitoring vaccine safety. I'll give her one, the Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD). Let's see if she can make the other two. After all, this is VERY basic information that she should know about vaccine safety.
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Name the other two. Predictive typing fail again.
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