Yeah, no one is arguing those points. Orient has basically argued natural immunity to measles from the recent outbreaks is good for those patients despite our knowledge that measles natural immunity comes with destruction of your memory B cell population and increased mortality.
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There is a disinfo glut; there are also parents on the fence. The way to reach the parents on the fence is not to reply to disinfo, though. That just amplifies it, I'm afraid. People prefer the scarier story. See e.g. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/03/largest-study-ever-fake-news-mit-twitter/555104/ …
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The polite antivaxxer, though a rare beast, is worth replying to politely. Once the firmness of their position is clear, though, it's best for all concerned to move on, I think. Marie, Ken, Punter, and Rusty Mike are all examples of this in their own way.
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You think you will persuade them by treating them like idiots and threatening to take their children away? How's that working for you?
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