I get tired of this nonsense. Having worked with NPs all my career, I view propaganda like this as nothing more than turf protection, plain and simple. I often wonder why doctors like Dr. Elle don't spend nearly as much time and effort opposing naturopathic licensing bills. 1/https://twitter.com/McknightmdEllen/status/1104361877583417345 …
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David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Alieta Eck, MD
Not surprisingly former President of the a medical John Birch Society disguised as a medical professional society that is antivax,
@AAPSonline, chimes in approvingly. 2/https://twitter.com/alietaeck/status/1104374282497548288 …David Gorski, MD, PhD added,
Alieta Eck, MD @AlietaEckPeople need to be aware of the tremendous difference in training of nurse practitioners vs physicians. 600 hrs of health policy vs 20,000 hrs of hands on training in patient care. Watch this excellent talk.@AAPSonline@DPCCoalition @npchcp@JediPD@IP4PI Truth in advertising. https://twitter.com/McknightmdEllen/status/1104361877583417345 …3 replies 2 retweets 11 likesShow this thread -
I had to put up with the same BS in Michigan from the
@MichStateMedSoc five years ago when a similar bill was being considered in Michigan. MSMS ran trucks with billboards by the state capital and lobbied legislators heavily, urging it's members to call/write our legislators. 3/1 reply 0 retweets 4 likesShow this thread -
When various naturopathic licensing bills or other bills to license quackery have come up since then...crickets. No email bursts from
@MichStateMedSoc to its members. No lobbying legislators. I don't even recall whether MSMS even testified when the bills were in committee. 4/2 replies 0 retweets 11 likesShow this thread -
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@MichStateMedSoc's activity then inspired me to write this, and the reappearance of the same turf protection tropes today inspired me to repost it. It's sad to see that little or nothing has changed in five years. 5/5https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/expanding-the-scope-of-practice-of-advanced-practice-nurses-does-not-endanger-patients/ …7 replies 2 retweets 11 likesShow this thread -
Replying to @gorskon @MichStateMedSoc
So much has happened since you came to the conclusions in 2014. There has been “mission creep,” with NPs calling themselves doctors, hanging up a shingle and practicing independently today. They often do not specialize in training. The key is patient protection. Full disclosure.
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Replying to @AlietaEck @MichStateMedSoc
Be careful what you challenge me with. I might just take another deep dive. It's been five years; so the time is ripe. I also note that five years ago the literature most definitely did not support the contention that NPs provide inferior care. Any bets that that's changed?
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Replying to @gorskon @MichStateMedSoc
It seems you are saying it is foolish for anyone to take 15,000 hrs to learn how to diagnose and treat patients when they could provide the same quality care with 600 hrs. Why not shut down the medical schools? No. There are many sad stories being compiled--just wait.
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Straw man much? No, seriously. That's a total misrepresentation of my argument. No surprise there. You're with @AAPSonline. Bullshit is what AAPS is all about.
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Replying to @gorskon @AlietaEck and
Do you want to display ad hominem attacks towards
@AlietaEck or do you want to have a civilized and evidence based discussion? Let’s be mature about this. I would personally like to know the truth, but from what I see, the jury is still out on this issue by a long shot.1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes -
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Do you think swearing is an ad hominem?
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