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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

Michigan, USA
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    David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 9 Mar 2019

    David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Doctor Elle

    I get tired of this nonsense. Having worked with NPs all my career, I view propaganda like this as nothing more than turf protection, plain and simple. I often wonder why doctors like Dr. Elle don't spend nearly as much time and effort opposing naturopathic licensing bills. 1/https://twitter.com/McknightmdEllen/status/1104361877583417345 …

    David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

    Doctor Elle @McknightmdEllen
    This is a succinct informative description of the training differences between MD/DOs and ‘D’NPs. Watch... https://youtu.be/a5cAm4IZyaM 
    7:14 AM - 9 Mar 2019
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    • Ross Grayson, MPH, CIH Hillary Evan KellyR amateurimager Mark Anthony Sison Gregorio Cardio NP sciencebasedlife Dr. Pink Marcx Tullix Cicero
    24 replies 6 retweets 46 likes
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      2. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 9 Mar 2019

        David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted Alieta Eck, MD

        Not surprisingly former President of the a medical John Birch Society disguised as a medical professional society that is antivax, @AAPSonline, chimes in approvingly. 2/https://twitter.com/alietaeck/status/1104374282497548288 …

        David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

        Alieta Eck, MD @AlietaEck
        People need to be aware of the tremendous difference in training of nurse practitioners vs physicians. 600 hrs of health policy vs 20,000 hrs of hands on training in patient care. Watch this excellent talk. @AAPSonline @DPCCoalition @npchcp @JediPD @IP4PI Truth in advertising. https://twitter.com/McknightmdEllen/status/1104361877583417345 …
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      3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 9 Mar 2019

        I had to put up with the same BS in Michigan from the @MichStateMedSoc five years ago when a similar bill was being considered in Michigan. MSMS ran trucks with billboards by the state capital and lobbied legislators heavily, urging it's members to call/write our legislators. 3/

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      4. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 9 Mar 2019

        When various naturopathic licensing bills or other bills to license quackery have come up since then...crickets. No email bursts from @MichStateMedSoc to its members. No lobbying legislators. I don't even recall whether MSMS even testified when the bills were in committee. 4/

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      5. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 9 Mar 2019

        Anyway, @MichStateMedSoc's activity then inspired me to write this, and the reappearance of the same turf protection tropes today inspired me to repost it. It's sad to see that little or nothing has changed in five years. 5/5https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/expanding-the-scope-of-practice-of-advanced-practice-nurses-does-not-endanger-patients/ …

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      6. End of conversation
      1. peter westre‏ @VikingRN 9 Mar 2019
        Replying to @gorskon

        As a PMHNP I appreciate your support. We both want optimal outcomes for patients.

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      2. realitybased1‏ @realitybased111 9 Mar 2019
        Replying to @gorskon

        Gotta disagree with you on this one. Canadian family doc here and this is not “turf protection”. An NP is not equivalent training to GP/FP and in Canada at least, they cost the system more. I can see a role in specialist type clinic support, but they are not qualified as PCP

        2 replies 2 retweets 26 likes
      3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 9 Mar 2019
        Replying to @realitybased111

        NPS cost the system more? Citation required.

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      1. ConcernedMD‏ @MdConcerned 10 Mar 2019
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        #powerofthepussy is real and you have let it cloud your judgement doctor https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/expanding-the-scope-of-practice-of-advanced-practice-nurses-does-not-endanger-patients/ …pic.twitter.com/nTQG6PHdXq

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      1. Alieta Eck, MD‏ @AlietaEck 10 Mar 2019
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        The key is you "worked with" NPs. What we object to is NPs presenting themselves as "doctor" as setting up their own independent practices. When you or your family members get sick, do you consult a doctor or a nurse? I am amazed that you cannot cede the scope of education point

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      2. JAFERD, MD 🇺🇸‏ @Supermansings 10 Mar 2019
        Replying to @gorskon

        Easy question, man. You are in a car wreck, completely incapacitated, bleeding out. Who do you want to see you? I’m board certified emergency medicine for 10 years. I’ve been to two war zones.

        3 replies 0 retweets 15 likes
      3. JAFERD, MD 🇺🇸‏ @Supermansings 10 Mar 2019
        Replying to @Supermansings @gorskon

        The NP awaiting your arrival graduated near the bottom of his LPN class. Online RN, worked part time in a nursing home while getting her on line FNP. Has spent a year or two single level 4-5 in the fast track. I’m in one trauma bay, he’s the other. Hurry. Pick. Oh, you can’t.

        2 replies 0 retweets 16 likes
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