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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 25 Feb 2019

      Here's a good rule of thumb: If the term "vaccine choice" or "informed consent" appears in the name of a vaccine-related organization, that organization is antivaccine. If there's an exception to this axiom, I have yet to see it in 20 years of combatting antivax misinformation.

      16 replies 104 retweets 334 likes
    2. Christine Stabell Benn‏ @StabellBenn 25 Feb 2019
      Replying to @gorskon

      We disagree today :-). I am all for vaccine choice and informed consent - and I am certainly not antivaccine.

      1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
    3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 25 Feb 2019
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      David Gorski, MD, PhD Retweeted David Gorski, MD, PhD

      I suspect not. "Informed consent" as used by antivaxers doesn't mean the same thing it means when you or I use it. In reality it is misinformed consent.https://twitter.com/gorskon/status/1100033474226987009 …

      David Gorski, MD, PhD added,

      David Gorski, MD, PhDVerified account @gorskon
      Replying to @guiscaesar
      It's what I Iike to refer to as "misinformed consent." Risks of vaccination are made up (e.g., autism, SIDS) or hugely exaggerated, while benefits are downplayed. The risk-benefit discussion is deceptively and grossly skewed against vaccines, hence "misinformed consent."
      2 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
    4. Christine Stabell Benn‏ @StabellBenn 25 Feb 2019
      Replying to @gorskon

      That is your interpretation. I believe that people mean informed consent when they write so. And by that they mean balanced info about known pros and cons of a certain vaccine. And that should make it clear that it is a good idea to get the vaccine - otherwise there is a problem.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 25 Feb 2019
      Replying to @StabellBenn

      Out of curiosity, do you similarly believe, for example, @RobertKennedyJr when he describes himself as "fiercely pro-vaccine" or Andrew Wakefield when he says he is "not antivaccine" out Jenny McCarthy when she says she is a "vaccine safety activist"?

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 25 Feb 2019
      Replying to @gorskon @StabellBenn @RobertKennedyJr

      Let's take a look at @picphysicians and "informed consent." For instance, its Twitter feed is full of cherry picked studies purporting to show horrific risks due to various vaccines. Ditto its Facebook page. It's a selection curated to paint a picture of vaccines as dangerous.

      6:42 AM - 25 Feb 2019
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        2. Christine Stabell Benn‏ @StabellBenn 25 Feb 2019
          Replying to @gorskon @RobertKennedyJr @picphysicians

          All the more reason for me to share with them our research results showing that some vaccines may in fact have extraordinary beneficial effects on overall health. #NSEvac

          1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
        3. David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 25 Feb 2019
          Replying to @StabellBenn @RobertKennedyJr @picphysicians

          Sure, you can do that, but the odds of its changing a single mind are homeopathically small and the risk that your work will be misrepresented as supporting antivax pseudoscience is very high.

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