Leading into Ioffe’s piece - her family fled Russia precisely because they saw such rhetoric reappear. The last time it happened her parents saw their grandparents executed in front of them. They ran. A to B. Conspiracy to pogrom. Conspiracy theories are the basis of mass hate.
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Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @PrestonLewis8 and
Soros conspiracies are being picked up by prominent Republicans, Trump promotes Soros Kavanaugh directly, mentions Soros/Gaetz video CT in at rallies. A conspiracist gets pushed over the edge, an hour before the shooting taked about this specific CT and that “he’s going in.”
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Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @PrestonLewis8 and
Writer’s like Ioffe say yes, look at history, look at what happened to my family, why we ran, look at what happened when Putin did this very thing. And you ignore it all. Or worse whattaboutism WRT “leftists” who have no power, no megaphone like POTUS.
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Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @PrestonLewis8 and
You refuse to see the link because you don’t want to. But the link between conspiracism and hate is old. Voltaire said, “those you can make believe absurdities will commit atrocities.”This is the predictable outcome of mainstreaming conspiracy which is what Trump has always done.
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I’m fine with seeing the link if there is one. I don’t have a dog in this fight I voted for Hillary. So there is no motivated reasoning. But saying a guy who didn’t like trump must have been motivated by trump and none of the other anti Semitic talk out there w/ no evidence to
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Replying to @PrestonLewis8 @MarkHoofnagle and
Support it outside of “trump says hateful things and is the president” is an odd line of thinking that seems to be held Bc of your own motivated reasoning rather than the actual facts of the situation.
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I’m rubber and you’re glue eh? Didn’t read the Marcotte article I just posted? Fine. Two questions. Do you know what blood libel refers to? Do you know why the white supremacists in Charlottesville were chanting, “the Jews will not replace us?”
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Yes, the Blood Libel is a very important conspiracy theory from history that is, unfortunately, not dead even in 2018.
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It’s a little embarassing how poor medstuds can be on history. Maybe they are getting too much STEM. I mean, we literally have to expose him to the idea that hateful rhetoric from leaders results in dead people - and in particular the Jews for the last 1000 years.
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Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @gorskon and
He actually acknowledges our point “Trump says hateful things and is the president” as if that’s not enough! Yes, that *is* our entire point. Because historically when leaders have done so people die. When leaders spread CTs targeting specific groups they die. Want examples?
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Precisely. And then those leaders try to deny responsibility because they didn't personally order the violence. It's a pattern repeated many times throughout history.
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