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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 6 Oct 2018

      I agree its a failure of peer review. I’m just saying you could generalize such failures to any literature not just social sciences. Admittedly Im at the gym and have a crappy connection but I have not seen where they have systematically published their rejections and reviews.

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    4. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 6 Oct 2018

      At the same time, no individual study defines the field. The determination of real vs fake is impossible at te peer review phase without sharing of raw data or even witnessing the work being performed. Science’s process of validation is replication.

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    5. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 6 Oct 2018
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @CharlesLCarter3 and

      Why is it so hard to believe someone who participates in this process and cares to make it better when they say, “yes it’s this flawed, even in other fields.” I’m not disputing the results, just the conclusion. Do you have an experience that is different? Do you publish?

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    7. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 6 Oct 2018

      And you don’t feel like you routinely see papers in the literature with obvious, fundamental flaws, even in the big journals? I feel like peer review is systemically weak, because we don’t value it, we don’t reward it, and in my experience veers between petty and lazy.

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    8. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 6 Oct 2018
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @CharlesLCarter3 and

      Are you routinely satisfied with your reviews? Do you ever spend a whole day systematically reviewing a paper then see the other reviewers spit out one paragraph? Maybe I’m taking crazy pills, but I feel as though, routinely, I’m the only reviewer who reads past the abstract.

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    10. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 6 Oct 2018

      That may be a belief you have about these fields but these hoax papers are proof of nothing. Proof would be a controlled study of publication attempts of papers with differing biases showing one is favored, rather then the equally likely possibility of selection bias.

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 6 Oct 2018
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @CharlesLCarter3 and

      Exactly. Without controls, the Boghossian study is pretty meaningless. I'm not saying that it would be easy to design appropriate controls, but Boghossian's group didn't even try.

      6:25 PM - 6 Oct 2018
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