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Surgeon/scientist promoting science in medicine and exposing quackery. Editor of Science-Based Medicine. My opinions do NOT represent those of my employers.

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    1. Alex Patch‏ @alexjpatch 7 Sep 2018
      Replying to @alexjpatch @MarkHoofnagle and

      Misguided, I think, but his aims were noble.

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    2. Alex Patch‏ @alexjpatch 7 Sep 2018
      Replying to @alexjpatch @MarkHoofnagle and

      But to demand that The New Yorker not engage with Bannon or the alt-right is to __demand__ that The New Yorker limit and narrow its' own expression.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. Alex Patch‏ @alexjpatch 7 Sep 2018
      Replying to @alexjpatch @MarkHoofnagle and

      As an institution, the New Yorker made an effort to promote the exchange and scrutiny diverse ideas. They tried to create a platform, in person and in print, where "free speech" could take place. They didn't have to do so, but it is admirable.

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    4. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 7 Sep 2018
      Replying to @alexjpatch @gorskon @clairlemon

      So what’s next? Flat earth? Holocaust denial? Not having standards is gross. It also denies the reality that the highest goal of these defunct, shitty, racist ideologues is to enjoy a public forum to confer legitimacy when all they should enjoy is ridicule.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Alex Patch‏ @alexjpatch 7 Sep 2018
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @gorskon @clairlemon

      I'm personally on the fence as to whether Bannon's ilk, even in the context of a scrutenous interview, should be circumscribed by that 'editorial line.' But for the sake of debate, his ideas are held by a significant minority of Americans.

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    6. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 7 Sep 2018
      Replying to @alexjpatch @gorskon @clairlemon

      So are racism, sexism, etc., doesn’t mean they’re good topics for meaningful exploration. They’re gross.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Alex Patch‏ @alexjpatch 7 Sep 2018
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @gorskon @clairlemon

      Debating David Duke is unlikely to convert any Klan members. But what about the millions of Americans who seem to believe that immigration and trade are costing US workers their jobs? Write them off as racists? "Deplorables?" See where I'm going with this?

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    8. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 7 Sep 2018
      Replying to @alexjpatch @gorskon @clairlemon

      Debating David Duke is the biggest win he could ever score - being admitted to the Overton window for reasonable discussion, see where I’m going with this? Creationists, antivaxxers, holocaust deniers are all desperate for debate with actual academics. They crave legitimacy.

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    9. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 7 Sep 2018
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @alexjpatch and

      Valuable discussion also is predicated on honesty of the participants. People who are interested in debate as theater, to score, to emotionally manipulate, gain footing, to lever their shitty ideas by proximity to good ones, or just plain lie, they’re not worth the time.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Mark Hoofnagle‏ @MarkHoofnagle 7 Sep 2018
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @alexjpatch and

      Worse, they win by the engagement, they win by legitimacy being conferred by standing next to people who don’t lie, who don’t cheat, who work hard and show their work. If you’ve ever seen a “Gish Gallop” you see logic and data isn’t always the winner, it’s the better manipulator.

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      David Gorski, MD, PhD‏Verified account @gorskon 7 Sep 2018
      Replying to @MarkHoofnagle @alexjpatch @clairlemon

      Yep. They also use what I like to call the "all truth comes from public debate" fallacy.https://respectfulinsolence.com/2013/04/26/all-truth-comes-from-public-debate-a-corollary-to-crank-magnetism/ …

      12:01 PM - 7 Sep 2018
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