RTL, do people have a right to know the accurate, full information on this? Or do they deserve to be misled and given partial, manipulative information?
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Replying to @Right_to_Life @VegarOttesen and
I have no problem with people having full, accurate information. In fact, I think they should. That isn't what this bill does. Now answer mine.
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Replying to @doritmi @VegarOttesen and
This bill doesn't do what you describe. Do you not trust doctors and nurses to give people in-depth details on it? Because right now, many are not giving their patients full, accurate information, like this:http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/oakland-county-mom-in-court-battle-over-not-vaccinating-her-child …
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Replying to @Right_to_Life @VegarOttesen and
The language of the bill was quoted to you. You linked to a court session, not a patient/doctor interaction.
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Replying to @doritmi @Right_to_Life and
Also, that woman is an all around antivaxer. She doesn't want to vaccinate, period. She's just using the "fetal tissue" gambit as an excuse, as many antivaxers do. Note how she doesn't say she'd vaccinate her children with vaccines that aren't manufactured using those cell lines.
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If Dr. Jack Kevorkian of all people had an ethical objection to a vaccine based on the use of abortion, we'll defend that objection; we don't decide if someone is on our team first. We don't care what she does about vaccines unrelated to abortion.
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They've basically already answered that question, and the answer is yes. To them their religious abhorrence at the origin of two cell lines >50 years ago trumps saving the lives of children, born and unborn, NOW.
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Replying to @gorskon @VegarOttesen and
Are you saying it's impossible for an atheist to ethically object to a medicine what was created through the death of an innocent person?
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Now there's a straw man argument, if ever I saw one!
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Replying to @gorskon @VegarOttesen and
You just said our "religious abhorrence" is leading us to want people to die. We're just trying to keep up with your strawmen, doctor.
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Replying to @Right_to_Life @VegarOttesen and
No straw man there. The source of your moral abhorrence to abortion is religion, is it not? Or am I mistaken and it's a moral code that derives from something other than religion, Christian or otherwise?
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